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PostSubject: Re: PAINTING OF FRITH   PAINTING OF FRITH - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 06, 2016 2:16 pm

Die Art,

Lt Frith is not buried where he was actually shot. So the images, from Diancast, although interesting, do not help with your proposed painting. I sent some images regarding the location of the death of Lt Frith to John Young, but he is currently away, so I do not want to spoil his thunder.
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PostSubject: Re: PAINTING OF FRITH   PAINTING OF FRITH - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 06, 2016 5:35 pm

I thought that when I read the inscription on his grave. I shall look forward to receiving them. Many thanks Kenny.
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PostSubject: Re: PAINTING OF FRITH   PAINTING OF FRITH - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 08, 2016 3:44 pm


die art,

In another engraving of irregulars pursuing a Zulu at Ulundi, the warrior has been illustrated in a similar way with his shield beyond his back. As well as being a defensive pose, in my own opinion, it can be construed as a submission to an inevitable fate.say's JY...

Agreed!, it was a sad feature of the war that when an attack failed and the rout began, the Zulu
adopted a submissive posture and stories have been recounted that you could walk up to a warrior
and do him to death in any manner without encountering the least resistance.What a brave noble
people.

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PostSubject: Re: PAINTING OF FRITH   PAINTING OF FRITH - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2016 12:17 am

Chard1879 wrote:
John Young wrote:
die art,

In another engraving of irregulars pursuing a Zulu at Ulundi, the warrior has been illustrated in a similar way with his shield beyond his back.  As well as being a defensive pose, in my own opinion, it can be construed as a submission to an inevitable fate.

Charles Edwin Fripp, an eyewitness to the event, in his rendition of the charge of 17th Lancers, shows at least one warrior shielding his back.  It is feasible that The Graphic engraving is also based on Fripp's assessment as his was their special artist.

Orlando Norrie in his work on the charge of the 17th Lancers, also shows at least one warrior with his shield over his back.

Normally I would defer to a member of the Zulu Royal House for their opinion, but my usual counsel is currently not in position to answer any such queries.

John Y.


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PostSubject: Re: PAINTING OF FRITH   PAINTING OF FRITH - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2016 12:49 pm

24th,i took the opportunity to expand a little on JY's comment's
regarding Zulu submission!.. the image is from the illustrated
weekly The Graphic, contemporary of the time and to my mind
sharper and clearer to that other image, that's all it was.
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PostSubject: Re: PAINTING OF FRITH   PAINTING OF FRITH - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2016 8:45 pm

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