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Captain David Moriarity, 80th, KIA Ntombe
This photograph taken when he was in the 7th Regiment prior to his transfer to the 80th. [Mac & Shad] (Isandula Collection)
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Tim Needham

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PostSubject: John Poole 80th Regiment   Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:40 pm

Hello all,

An interesting article relating to 1549 Pte John Poole, claiming that he was a survivor of Intombi - my understanding is that there is no definitive list of men who survived so very possibly genuine?


As ever, any further knowledge of him would be welcome.


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PostSubject: John Poole 80th Regt    Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:05 am

Hi Tim ( merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas )
You're probably aware , but sadly due to a bombing raid in WW2 all the papers relating to the court martial were destroyed . To date no record has come to light that names all the soldiers who took part in the battle and survived .Only nine soldiers of the 80th Regt who fought and lived to tell of their escape can be confidently named on the basis of the information presently available . This from Robert Hope's ' A Staffordshire Regt In The Zulu & Sekukuni Campaigns 1878- 1879 ' . Unfortunately Poole isn't listed .
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PostSubject: Re: John Poole 80th Regiment   Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:36 am

Merry Christmas 90th!

Many thanks, I too consulted Robert's book and was disappointed not to see a mention of Poole as a definate survivor - this of course doesn't mean he wasn't there, but I suppose until further evidence comes to light to confirm one way or another he'll have to go down as a 'maybe'.

I have spoken to Robert Hope and he unfortunately has no further knowledge of John Poole's involvement in the engagement.

All the best,

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PostSubject: Re: John Poole 80th Regiment   Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:52 am

An interesting article and Pte Poole goes on my list as a possible or even probable survivor. I have Robert Hopes book as well and the list of 9 confirmed survivors but wonder whether there are any other “possibles” that have been identified? Also apart from Lt Harvard who was OC A Coy I believe at the time I cannot trace the Coy for any of the other survivors even Sgt Booth, does anyone have any info on this? Regards Phil
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PostSubject: Re: John Poole 80th Regiment   Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:11 am

In the 1911 census John Poole was living at 23 Brook St Wrexham with his wife, four sons and two daughters. The couple had a total of 10 children. He volunteered for the Territorial Force in WW1 and was discharged in Sept. 1916 - he was 64.

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PostSubject: Re: John Poole 80th Regiment   Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:53 am

Hi All

An interesting Newspaper report of 1927, an Old Comrade's Dinner, J Poole attended.

Two others were there that could have said J Poole was not a survivor of Intombi, they were Lieut.-Gen. Sir Charles Tucker and Private Stephen Costello.

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PostSubject: Re: John Poole 80th Regiment   Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:39 pm

Hello Graves,

Yes, good find - another potential bit of evidence indicating that he was indeed present at the massacre?


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