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No, but they were acquainted.

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Andy,

Are you representing the U. K. in the Eurovision Song Contest? Nil points! Mad

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Are you in the same group as 1879Graves? In the words of David Jacobs “Its a miss.” Mad

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Join the Boy Band - don’t you have Ladies in the Veld? Mad

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Either Paulina Lady Wood or Mrs Ronald Campbell. I would go for Wood, but Eurovision and boy band has me perplexed.
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Steve,

Kenny has already tried Kitty Campbell.

Lady Wood - isn’t that an area of Birmingham?

Still no cigar! Mad

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Is it Beatrice ?
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Just to clarify to my knowledge the lady in the photograph was never on the veldt.

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JY What day are you flying out ?

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On the 18th arriving on the morning of the 19th.

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It almost has to be Chard's secret mistress who wouldn't even kiss him because of his tongue malady and enjoyed seeing his VC pinned to his naked chest.
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Trust you lower the tone.

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Keyboarding with barely a whisper----Have a great pilgrimage.   Remember our trip in "99 and how you were sanctioned for desertion and were foaming at Hlobane!  (The above from Chard's recently discovered diary)
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At least I didn’t eat the sandwiches that I was saving for you brave boys!

And who gave my the pill on Hlobane? Joker

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My recollection is that you desperately needed medication to avert being the last casualty at Hlobane. I remember saving Fingers' life during the Buffalo's deluge and, near the end, being rescued by a Zulu with a stick crossing the flooded torrent--shades of Smith-Dorrien's escape and Coghill's selflessness. And where were you: Doing your best to imitate Harward's craven ride for assistance. Ah, the adventure of being "Lost in Zululand." Who was your aide de camp, Dr. E?
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Dr. Death & Carlos, but only one of those helped me change the tyre in the deluge, whilst the other eat your sandwiches.

As for desertion what about the bottle shop at iSandlwana?

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Is it Princess Eugenie’s maid, the future Mrs Walkinshaw, who married Woods bugler after they met when they visited Zululand. I’m on hol in NZ so can’t trace her name?
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JB, As you well know, Fingers and I were doing a recon in the bottle shop. This so the main body wouldn't get into a jam and be surrounded. I can still remember the stud policeman Harry getting swept down the flooded buffalo like a tumbleweed, and that one fellow (now passed) yelling for me to stay with the stranded non-swimmers. I guess we had our own little adventure out in the wilds of Zululand. Remember we, the stragglers, were all treated for hypothermia at Rattray's.
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Herbie,

No it is not Mrs. Walkinshaw.

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By way of a clue, the lady’s husband and her father were both military men.

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Durnford's wife.
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RB,

I’m afraid not. There is a photograph of Mrs. Durnford in Victoria’s Harvest for you to compare.

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You were going to send me a copy, remember?????
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RB,

I’ll get you one in when I get back from India.

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Sahib, Maybe see you in March at the photo fair. Any date on that and venue? Spending a month at the beach starting next Tuesday. Have a good pilgrimage to you and the memsahib.
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RB,

Date: 17th March 2019
Location: The Hellenic Centre, Marylebone, London, W1U 5AS

Its all Greek to me...

Are the NC beaches back in order now? If so enjoy yourself!

It will be a quick turnaround for me between KZN & India.

There is a family connection between the lady in the photograph and one of the places that we are visiting.

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Thanks, JB, for the info. Why the change of venue? Beaches are OK now. Frere's memsahib? Yes, you'd better get used to traveling or the memsahib will dump you down the well at Cawnpore.
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RB,

Lady Frere - still no cigar. Did you know that there’s an area in Eastern Cape named Lady Frere?

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Negative--I have an jinteresting cdv of Sir Bartle Sr., full-standing--on the way from India right now--want to pick it up for me when you are there?
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Why not I am doing a grand tour...

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Herbie,

Sorry no it is not Mrs. Jahleel...

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Hi

I have two people in mind.......although it does look like any male member of my family when confronted with a Birkenhead Drill situation.....

Mrs Pulleine (Frances Katherine Bell)?

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Sime,

Frances Pulleine appears on Page 50 of Victoria’s Harvest, it isn’t her.

Wasn’t Frances a common name then - so many of them...

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Hi John

Yes, I have one of two Fanny's in my family around that time.

So I assume you are after a Frances.......with something to do with Zululand, but who has maybe never been on the veldt.....and who was daughter of and married to a soldier - most likely an officer......

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Simon,

You assume too much, yes 1879 appears to have abounded with Frances: Miss Frances Colenso, Mrs. Frances Durnford, Miss Frances Durnford & Mrs. Frances Pulleine...

But maybe it wasn’t her first name? Or maybe it is just a load of old fanny...

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Bonjour John,
Margaret Frances Alison?
Cheers
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Fred,

That’s just ‘armless fun I take it?

No this lady’s husband was in the field, rather driving a desk at Horse Guards.

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Eliza Melvill ?
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Smoko,

I’m afraid you are incorrect.

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John,

A wild guess - her husband was killed at Isandlwana - her name was Evelyn - and she died Evelyn Beerbohm on 21 November 1931. She is responsible for the memorial to her late husband in St. Peter’s PMB.
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Peter,

To my knowledge she did not. I don’t think her husband met him in person either.

Kenny,

No her husband returned home to her, and her maiden surname was not Davies...

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An even wilder guess - her father served in the Royal Canadians Rifles.
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