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PostSubject: Re: The Western Slopes   The Western Slopes - Page 2 EmptySun May 12, 2019 7:55 am

Hi Frank,

I have been trawling through my ('modern') books about the incident and most of them seem to have the 'Daly Wave' mentioned - most seem to reference it at the same time as one of the NNMC departed but as you say, there are no sources of who witnessed it nor who Daly was waving to.

I wonder if it is just a myth, perhaps to reinforce the Victorian idea of how a military officer should face adversity/death (Younghusband shaking hands, the officer doing his shopping list, etc)....Maybe Daly was a notoriously cheerful fellow in the regiment?

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Morning Simon
Im still trawling through all the old accounts, with no luck, Possibly Morris? IF it did occur I would think it was at a time when he still had something to be cheerful about, on the firing line just before the general collapse for instance.
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PostSubject: Re: The Western Slopes   The Western Slopes - Page 2 EmptySun May 12, 2019 8:25 am

My apologies to Morris fans, nothing there. Mac and Shad neither, although they do describe him as having a genial disposition.
So a trawl through the colonials will be in order.
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PostSubject: Re: The Western Slopes   The Western Slopes - Page 2 EmptySun May 12, 2019 8:27 am

Quoted in a letter by James Sivewright. Not NNH.
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PostSubject: Re: The Western Slopes   The Western Slopes - Page 2 EmptySun May 12, 2019 8:33 am

I was hoping that it was from Brickhill - a fair bit of his account deals with the retreat of the NNMC (and stand on the Saddle area) but he does not mention it.
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Thanks Julian

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PostSubject: Re: The Western Slopes   The Western Slopes - Page 2 EmptySun May 12, 2019 9:23 am

Julian
Can you put the quote into context? Was he the one waved at, did he witness it or was he 'told' about it?
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PostSubject: Re: The Western Slopes   The Western Slopes - Page 2 EmptySun May 12, 2019 9:27 am

Hi Julian/Frank,

I am having trouble finding out anything about JS at isandlwana - I am only doing on line research and he is mentioned in connection with the battle but I can not find his role in battle (if any)

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PostSubject: Re: The Western Slopes   The Western Slopes - Page 2 EmptySun May 12, 2019 9:33 am

Last night, I checked the original source: It's only mentioned "them".
"Them" seems to indicate "fugitives".
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