WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Dawn Lt Col Pulleine Lord Chelmsford assures us that there is no way the Zulu can get around us without our knowing. Col Durnford Zulu generals have a nasty habit of doing the unexpected It might be wise to picket the hills
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  PublicationsPublications  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» No. 3 Troop Natal Horse (Bettington's as was)
Rank Queries EmptyToday at 9:01 am by Frank Allewell

» Bakers light horse Uniforms
Rank Queries EmptyToday at 12:12 am by imperial1

» M. Prendergast medal 99th foot found
Rank Queries EmptyMon Oct 21, 2019 11:29 pm by imperial1

» 21st Regiment (Royal Scots Fusiliers) Memorial, Ayr.
Rank Queries EmptyMon Oct 21, 2019 6:39 pm by Catiline63

» Lieutenant Daly Wave
Rank Queries EmptyMon Oct 21, 2019 4:58 pm by Frank Allewell

» New Book on AW Durnford
Rank Queries EmptyMon Oct 21, 2019 11:25 am by bill cainan

» Slightly off-topic: Xhosa Wars
Rank Queries EmptySat Oct 19, 2019 4:50 am by anorakABO

» The Western Slopes
Rank Queries EmptyThu Oct 17, 2019 1:54 pm by Frank Allewell

» Talk by Rob Caskie
Rank Queries EmptyWed Oct 16, 2019 8:10 am by barry

» How to obtain Service History of recipients in the 58th Foot
Rank Queries EmptyMon Oct 14, 2019 10:16 am by FredK

» Griqualand West Constabulary
Rank Queries EmptySun Oct 13, 2019 2:42 pm by Victorian Dad

» Mr. John Hinshaw
Rank Queries EmptySat Oct 05, 2019 10:43 pm by Frank Allewell

» Memorial at Entombe Drift vandalised
Rank Queries EmptySat Oct 05, 2019 8:12 pm by John Young

» 1/1st NNC officers
Rank Queries EmptyFri Oct 04, 2019 10:10 am by Julian Whybra

» Leadership of the NNC
Rank Queries EmptyFri Oct 04, 2019 4:43 am by Frank Allewell

The Prince Imperial of France--rare pose.
Rank Queries Screenshot-20190905-111641-Outlook-181x240 Isandula Collection)
Zulu History
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Top posters
90th
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
littlehand
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
ADMIN
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
1879graves
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
rusteze
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
John
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
impi
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Top posting users this month
Julian Whybra
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
John Young
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
SRB1965
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
1879graves
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
WeekendWarrior
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
FredK
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
imperial1
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Herbie
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Catiline63
Rank Queries Bar_leftRank Queries BarRank Queries Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 3
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.

Share
 

 Rank Queries

Go down 
AuthorMessage
Herbie



Posts : 33
Join date : 2017-11-16

Rank Queries Empty
PostSubject: Rank Queries   Rank Queries EmptyFri May 31, 2019 10:34 pm

I’ve got a couple of queries on ranks if anyone can help.

I’ve seen a few examples of 2nd Lt (being predominant) and Sub Lt ranks (in 1 or 2 cases) being held by different officers in the same regiment. Sub Lt Griffith of 2/24th KIA as Isandlwana for example. Obviously they are equal ranks but why have both in the same regiment. Is it something to do with how they gained their commission?

Secondly whilst I’m very familiar with the difference between Cpl and L/Cpl I see that the Army Service Corps medal roll for example has men in 4 grades: 1st Cpl, Cpl, 2nd Cpl and L/Cpl, as well as L/Sgt. (Perhaps I should add that I was given local Cpl rank before I was a L/Cpl myself back in the day!)

Regards Phil
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 1940
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 63
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

Rank Queries Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rank Queries   Rank Queries EmptySat Jun 01, 2019 7:02 am

Phil,

It has to do with the date of their commission.  The British Army briefly used the rank of sub-lieutenant from 1871 to 1877, replacing the ranks of ensign in the infantry and cornet in the cavalry.

In 1877, it was replaced in turn by the rank of second lieutenant.

Just don’t get me started on first & second captains.

The 1st Corporal has got me stumped, I must admit, but the A.S.C. appear the be a law unto themselves.  I would suggest contacting the Royal Logistics Corps Museum to see if they can assist with that one.

Corporal and 2nd corporal existed in other Corps in units such as the R.E. and the A.H.C., those were both substantive ranks, whereas a lance corporal was then an appointment.  Although that is further confused by having both paid and unpaid lance corporals.

The Royal Artillery muddied the waters further by having corporals and bombardiers, but then the bombardier only had one stripe.

I bet you wished you’d never asked now?

Regards,

JY
Back to top Go down
Online
Herbie



Posts : 33
Join date : 2017-11-16

Rank Queries Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rank Queries   Rank Queries EmptySat Jun 01, 2019 7:48 am

Thanks John
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




Rank Queries Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rank Queries   Rank Queries Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Rank Queries
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: DID THEY OR DIDN'T THEY TAKE PART IN THE ZULU WAR-
Jump to: