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PostSubject: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 8:59 pm

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The medals are named to the following:

1/24th
Lt Col. H.B.Pulleine. (In the middle)
Pte 628 Joseph Brown
Pte 749 James Coleman
Sgt 1313 Thomas Cooper
Pte 290 Thomas Cox
Drmr 1786 George Dibden
Pte 438 Thomas Duck, shown in photo though as 2/24th
Pte 66 Thomas Egan
Pte 403 George Henry Fay
Pte 131 Robert Leach
Pte 147 Frederick Sharp
Pte 161 Patrick Sutton
Pte 1753 William Theobald

2/24th
Pte 1272 Samuel Hacker
Drmr 2153 John Holmes
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 9:01 pm

Here is Sgt. Thomas Cooper

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PostSubject: isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon.   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 5:11 am

hi mons14.
Well done , great post . I"m going out on a limb here , but I"m fairly sure SGT THOMAS . COOPER is related
to the well known zulu war author / historian ..... Ian Knight . Happy to be corrected but I"m sure Cooper is
related to an author. If Ian Knight see"s this post he may contact pete and either confirm or deny .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 7:08 am

Excellent. Mr greaves has wanted to know what medals were held at Brecon. I believe he e-mail Martin Everett (Curator) but was told for security reasons, he could not say. (Sour Grapes)
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 6:35 pm

I also cant understand why this is a security issue? How can knowing their names be an issue; you can make an argument that knowledge of how many medals they have as a security issue....BUT the medals are freely visible and open to the public! So that doesn't wash?

Anyway -

I got the above list from a collector friend who actually viewed the collection (if you look hard you can see a name card with each that shows his name). I've always wanted to know the names on the medals too, as living in Canada the chances of me seeing this collection in the flesh anytime soon is sadly slim to none. So glad to know!

And yes, I understand that Sjt. Thomas Cooper is indeed a relation to Ian Knight the historian/author.

Enjoy the photo!

David
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 7:58 pm

At last we have them. Mons14 Thanks very much. Like you I did not quite understand the security issue thing, but I supposed Martin as a job to do.

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Sgt. Thomas Cooper related to an author Ian Knight.
Anyone know the connection.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 9:01 pm

For Mr Greaves

Ian was born in Sussex, in the UK. A boyhood visit to the feature-film Zulu first around his interest in the Anglo-Zulu War, and this intensified into serious research when he discovered that a member of his family – Sergeant Thomas Cooper, 1/24th – had been killed at the battle of Isandlwana.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 9:43 pm

Indeed, Knight, now one of the world's foremost experts on the 19th-century Zulu kingdom and the Anglo-Zulu wars of 1879, had been fascinated with Zulu history since he was a small boy and saw the 1964 movie "Zulu," about the wars. As a teenager Knight discovered that he had a family connection to the battle -- a distant relative, Sergeant Thomas Cooper of the 1st Battalion of the 24th Regiment, had died fighting for the British at Isandlwana.

Ian Knight says

"The more I got interested in this period, the more it seemed to me that I wasn't, as a British person in the 1960s and 1970s, really learning anything about it," Knight says. "We were getting only the Victorian British perspective on it all, and I wanted to start looking at the Zulu side of things, to try and get some idea of what the war meant to them and how they prosecuted it."

Well it paid off.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyFri Dec 04, 2009 10:16 am

I got my hopes up when I looked through those names Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyFri Dec 04, 2009 5:40 pm

James,

It's probably better you didnt find Slade in there, as you'd never have a chance at getting it in the future.

Keep your chin up mate, old Slade will show up one day.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon   Isandlwana casualty medals at Brecon EmptyFri Dec 04, 2009 6:25 pm

Hmm your right Mons14, but atleast id know where it is and be able to see it.
I hope he does :)
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