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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 12, 2010 8:07 pm

    A Few more Photographs by Izabel

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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 12, 2010 9:40 pm

    Thanks for the 1879Graves and Izabel. Its a pity all the photo's didn't come with who's who.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 6:15 am

    Many thanks for posting the photos for me. Only the top one isnt named. Ill go through Stalkers and see if I can identify them. Thought they may be of interest because some of them are wearing their medals
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    PostSubject: natal carbineers   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 6:44 am

    hi Izabel / 1879graves.
    Thanks for sharing the photo"s , much appreciated .
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 10:08 am

    izabel wrote:
    Many thanks for posting the photos for me. Only the top one isnt named. Ill go through Stalkers and see if I can identify them. Thought they may be of interest because some of them are wearing their medals

    If you want the names of the troopers in the top photo just look at the bottom one Wink :lol:
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    PostSubject: natal carbineers   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 14, 2010 2:03 am

    hi sirDCC.
    Well spotted , it is indeed the same photograph. Wink
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 14, 2010 4:58 am

    Do you know I never even noticed that. I wonder if this is the original photo Stalker used for his book. I got it from the Pietermaritzburg Archives so I think another trip is in order to see what else is hidden away there
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 10:27 pm

    Hi My great great grand father John James White was a survivor of Isandlwana. He was a Sergent Farrier with the C & T Corp and later became a Chelsea Pensioner. I have a picture of him in his pensioners uniform and he is wearing his medal reversed to show the date.He had a gun carrage funeral. I have always wondered how many survived the battle and was interested to see this site.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 10:55 pm

    Hi Suem. Welcome to the forum. Any chance of seeing the photo inquestion.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 11:16 pm

    Wil try - I have scanned and saved the photo & newspaper cutting of his funeral but am not sure how to attach a file to this reply - not really IT literate! I can do it with a normal e-mail.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 12:35 am

    Hi Suem,

    welcome to the forum, just attach your photo on an e-mail to admin he'll post it on the forum for you.

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    PostSubject: isandlwana survivors   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 3:35 am

    hi suem.
    Welcome to the forum , looking forward to the photo.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 11:17 pm

    Suem. I have sent you a P.M
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 23, 2010 6:36 pm

    Hello again,
    Ive out together a list of the surviving officers from the battle of Isandlwana
    Here they are...

    Lt Henry Curling RA
    Horace Smith-dorrien.
    Captain Essex
    JA Brickhill
    Captain Alan Gardner
    Lt J Adendorff
    Lt Alfred Henderson NNH
    Quartermaster. McPhail BBG
    Lieutenant Higginson 3rd NNC
    Captain Nourse NNC 1st
    Captain Stafford NNC 1st
    Captain Smythe NNC 1st
    Lieutenant. Erskine NNC 1st
    Lieutenant. Raw.
    Captain. Barton

    If anyone can correct these, It would create a more accurate list Idea

    I wont be around for about a week, so everybody keep up the excellent work Idea

    thanks
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    PostSubject: Excellent photos on this page   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 23, 2010 7:00 pm

    Loved looking at the pictures up top, good and clear, you're able to see faces and read the names of the soldiers.

    We're still doing research about our ancestor, Trooper Robert J. Kincade, have sent out several inquiries, no response as yet.

    Have a pleasant day/evening!
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 23, 2010 7:27 pm

    Ladycat,
    Im sure something will turn up in the future, its just the waiting game, someone will have some infomation or maybe a picture.

    I can assure you all members here are still keeping an eye open.

    thanks joe
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    PostSubject: Thanks Joe....   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 23, 2010 8:00 pm

    I know you're right. As I've said earlier, this is a great forum, lots of fascinating reading and wonderful photos to look at.

    We won't ever look at Zulu and Zulu Dawn again the same way!
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    PostSubject: isandlwana survivors   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 8:25 am

    hi joe.
    LT. William Francis Dundonald Cochrane 32nd Regt - attached on Special Service to the staff No 2 Column as Transport Officer .
    LT. Harry D . Davies Natal Native Horse , No 5 ( Edendale ) Troop.
    LT. Richard . Wyatt . Vause , Natal Native Horse , No 3 ( Sikali ) Troop.
    LT. T. Vaines , 1st Batt , 3rd Regt NNC , 9th Co.
    LT. George Frederick Andrews Natal Native Pioneer Corps 1st Co.
    Acting Control Officer , James Nathanial Hamer , Civilian attached to Army Commissariat and Transport Department .
    Here are 6 more for your list , as far as I am aware this should be all of them .
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 28, 2010 8:41 pm

    I am writing a historical saga which starts just before the Ango Zulu War. Can anyone tell me what happened to any of the survivors of Isandlwana.? I have a character who needs to fight on until the end of the war. Also, I need a regiment which fought in both Zulu War and Anglo boer War. So far I have the 17th lancers. Again, a character who needs to fight in both wars. This looks like a fabulous forum I wish I'd discovered it 7 years ago when I started this novel!!
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 28, 2010 8:53 pm

    oh, i should have said that my survivor should preferably have been attached to the 2/24th. I know G company stayed behind and did not go with Chelmsford that day but don't know if any of them survived (or disappeared that I could "make" survive)
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 29, 2010 12:35 pm

    Horsefixer
    There were no suvivors from G company.

    Regards
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 29, 2010 4:47 pm

    Hi Horsefixer,
    You are in a bit of a quandary, the main regiments that took part in the First Boer War were 3/60th Kings Royal Rifles Corps, the 58th Northamptonshire Regiment, 94th Connaught Rangers, and 2/21st Scottish Rifles. none of these were at Isandhlwana all arriving in South Africa to take place in the second invasion in april 1879.
    However N battery 5th brigade Royal Artillery were at both, Isandhlwana and fought during the 1st Boer war, also a number of Staff Officers served in both, including the so called Edward 'Lucky' Essex 75th Regiment, a survivour of Isandhlwana, and Laings Nek, being the only officer who was not wounded in the battle.
    Hope this gives you some ideas?
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 29, 2010 5:18 pm

    Thanks Rai, sorry I should have been more specific and stated the 2nd Boer War. Being South African when I say Boer War I mean the second one. The first Boer war being little more than a scrap in my eyes!!
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 29, 2010 6:29 pm

    Hi Again, Horsefixer,
    A large amount of Officers served in both the Zulu and 2nd Boer War but not many served at Isandhlwana, in fact i can only think of Lt H Smith-Dorrien 95th, but a number served in the isandhlwana Campaign but were out with Lord Chelmsford, including, R A P Clements, Willian Penn-Symons [died of wounds in 1899], 24th, John Dartnell Natal Volunteers, many others served iboth n the Zulu war and 2nd Boer War, but not in the Isandhlwana Campaign these include, Redvers Buller, Twentyman, Gawne, Strong, Williams, Lukin, Gunning, Warren, to name a few?
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    PostSubject: fantastic colorization of photos....   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 3:14 am

    Whooaaa, what a jolly good job of coloring Trooper Materson, really super great. Don't know which one I like best, the b/w or colored.....and how fortunate to have FOUND a picture of him. My family and I are still researching our ancestor, Trooper Robert Kincade, I've not given up hope that SOME picture will surface of him.

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    Hi.. Have just found this site and am looking to locate a complete list of survivors for Isandlwana? Does one exist? Have reason to think my great grandfather saw active service and survived but would like to confirm? Many thanks






    quote="joe"]Hi everyone
    im sure some of the members on this site have always wanted a full list of the survivors at isandlwana
    Im sure with the combined knowledge of the members on this forum we can come up with a list of those survivors!

    feel free to add any names to the list that you know!

    im sure we can do it!

    ill start ...

    LT Henry Curling R.A

    anyone please add names to that list !

    thanks joe[/quote]
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySun Sep 18, 2011 12:31 pm

    It'd be a slightly easier task for those who might be able to help by you supplying your Great Grandfather's name and unit details. Idea
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySun Sep 18, 2011 4:02 pm

    Many thanks.
    My great grandfather was Robert Winton and he was a sgt major 2nd Battalion The Grenadier Guards. Have documents which suggest he was at Isandlwana and then at Rourkes Drift but no evidence to back this up! Any help to find such information would be much appreciated.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySun Sep 18, 2011 4:34 pm

    Trooper,

    I hate to be the one to disappoint you but I can find no trace of anyone by that name on the Medal Roll.

    I also have a list of Grenadier Guards who joined the draft of the 1st/24th as replacements, I regret to say his name is not on that list either.

    His name, as you have given it, does not appear as a survivor of Isandlwana, or a defender of Rorke's Drift. Is it possible he used an assumed name?

    What are the documents that you have that suggest that he was?

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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySun Sep 18, 2011 6:28 pm

    Hi - I have diaries of his son (my grandfather) written in the 1930s giving an account of actions for his father's (Robert Winton) obituary.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySun Sep 18, 2011 7:51 pm

    Trooper,

    Might well be worth your while contacting the Guards Museum, unlike other museums the Guards have kept - where available - the service-papers of their former members. They should be able to assist you with your forebear's military service.

    Was the obituary published in any local newspaper?

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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySun Sep 18, 2011 10:42 pm

    Many thanks. I haven't explored the local paper theory yet! That's a line to definately go down though as I have the date of death etc. Many thanks.
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    PostSubject: Isandlwana Survivors    ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 11:40 am

    Hi Trooper.
    This is the most definitive work regarding survivors & Casualties of Isandlwana & R.Drift .

    http://www.rrw.org.uk/shop/shop.php?action=view&prodid=203

    cheers 90th. Idea
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 11:44 am

    Quote :
    This is the most definitive work regarding survivors & Casualties of Isandlwana & R.Drift .

    More so that the Noble 24th scratch
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    PostSubject: Isandlwana Survivors    ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 12:09 pm

    Hi MrG.
    I have ' The Noble 24th ' and it basically only deals with the 24th . Englands Son's has lists of ALL known personal that
    were there. Julian now that he is a member may post a page or two so you can see what I mean . Julian's book will also tell
    you where the / his information can be found . Once again I hope this makes sense . I had best clarify that Englands Son's
    is not a book but more a book of Lists and the whereabouts of where information can be found from those who survived Isandlwana.
    Julian I'm sure will be able to describe it far better than me .
    cheers 90th.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 11, 2012 11:57 am

    Suem and Trooper
    You have both written on this forum that ancestors, John James White and Robert Winton, claimed to have survived Isandhlwana. Neither name appears in any list of survivors. It is possible they enlisted under aliases. It is also possible they could spin a line for a free drink! It is also possible that there has been confusion over the battles of Isandhlwana and Inyezane which occurred on the same day. I am perfectly willing to help you find out if their claims are genuine. Perhaps you could contact me by private message with any information you have about them - regiment, rank, year of birth, subsequent career - and I'll see what I can find.
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    PostSubject: Isandhlwana Survivors   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Aug 16, 2012 6:25 pm

    Hi everyone

    Of the 8 Buffalo Border Guard present at Isandhlwana during the fight, 5 survived:-

    Quartermaster Dugald McPhail
    Quartermaster Sergeant William M Adams
    Trooper Charles Lennox Stretch
    Trooper ? Lennox
    Trooper John Adams (William M Adams son)

    QMS Adams and his son John did not know whether the other had survived until they got to Helpmakaar, QMS Adams had another son, Charles Adams age 16 on Garrison Duty at Fort Pine during the fight at Isandhlwana. All three survived the Zulu war. William to fight in the 1st & 2nd Boer War, and Charles to fight in the South African War and Bambata Rebellion.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyThu Aug 16, 2012 7:05 pm

    Thanks Dhragonheart. And welcome to the forum. Salute
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    PostSubject: Isandhlwana Survivors   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 17, 2012 3:32 pm

    Have just gone through my database of 1879 participants of the Zulu War and compiled this list of Isandhlwana Survivors (any errors are mine, as the database is far from complete)

    Induna Jacob NNC
    Scout Uhlowani NNC
    Wagon Driver Umgohluhlu NNC
    Wagon Driver Umpande NNC
    Scout Untabeni NNC

    Capt D M Smythe 1st/1st NNC
    Capt C R A Nourse D Coy 1st/1st NNC
    Sgt Maj T Sharp D Coy 1st/1st NNC
    Capt W H Stafford E Coy 1st/1st NNC
    Lt W B Erskine 1st/1st NNC

    Lt G W Adendorff No 6 Coy 1st/3rd NNC
    Lt W C R Higginson No 6 Coy 1st/3rd NNC
    Pte Malindi No 9 Coy 1st/3rd NNC
    Lt T Vaines No 9 Coy 1st/3rd NNC
    Headman Mvubi 1st/3rd NNC
    Sgt Maj J Williams 1st/3rd NNC
    Sikhota 2nd/3rd NNC

    Pte E Wilson B Coy 1st/24th
    Pte H Grant C Coy 1st/24th (Rocket Batt No 2 Column)
    Pte W Johnson C Coy 1st/24th (Rocket Batt No 2 Column)
    Pte J Trainer C Coy 1st/24th (Rocket Batt No 2 Column)
    (Glyn’s Groom) Pte J Williams D Coy 1st/24th
    Cpl J Bickley F Coy 1st/24th

    Pte J Power B Coy 1st/24th (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Pte H Davis D Coy 1st/24th (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Cpl W Parry D Coy 1st/24th (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Cpl J McCann E Coy 1st/24th (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Pte S Wassall 80th ( No 1 Sqd MI)
    Pte T Westwood 80th (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Pte D Whelan 13th (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Pte E Evans 3rd (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Pte J Gascoigne 3rd (No 1 Sqd MI)
    Sgt P Naughton 3rd (No 1 Sqd MI)

    QMS W M Adams BBG
    Trp J Adams BBG
    Trp Lennox BBG
    QM D McPhail BBG
    Trp C L Stretch BBG

    Wagon Driver Abraham C&T Dept
    Leader Black C&T Dept
    Mule Driver H Boer C&T Dept
    Asst Comm R A Chermside C&T Dept
    Conductor M Foley C&T Dept
    Wagon Driver Gamalulu C&T Dept
    Conductor R J Hall C&T Dept
    Acting Control Officer J N Hamer C&T Dept
    Leader Kadupe C&T Dept
    Leader Mango C&T Dept
    Leader N’Ishepeni C&T Dept
    (Doherty’s) Servant Udhlowane C&T Dept
    Wagon Driver Umhlusane C&T Dept
    Wagon Driver Umtobe C&T Dept
    Leader Umtshate C&T Dept
    Wagon Driver Umzana C&T Dept

    Driver J Baggely N Batt. 5th Bde RFA
    Driver J Burchell N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Sgt J Costellow N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Lt H T Curling N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Gnr W Green N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Gnr T Hallaghan N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Trptr N H Martin N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Driver E Price N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Shoeing Smith J Steen N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Shoeing Smith G Townsend N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Driver E Tucker N Batt 5th Bde RFA
    Act Bmbr G Gough N Batt 5th Bde RFA (Rocket Batt No 2 Column)

    Capt W Barton (Zikhali Horse No 1 Troop NNH)
    Lt C H Raw (Zikhali Horse No 1 Troop NNH)
    Lt R W Vause (Zikhali Horse No 3 Troop NNH)
    Lt A F Henderson (No 4 Troop NNH)
    Trp J Molife (No 4 Troop NNH)
    Nyanda (No 4 Troop NNH)
    Lt W F D Cochrane 32nd (No 5 Troop NNH)
    Lt H D Davies (No 5 Troop NNH)
    Sgt Maj S Kambula (No 5 Troop NNH)
    P Gulu (No 5 Troop NNH)

    Trp W W Barker NC
    Trp W W Edwards NC
    Trp C Fletcher NC
    Trp W Grainger NC
    Trp W Sibthorpe NC
    Trp W Tarbaton NC

    Trp G Collier NMP
    Trp D Doig NMP
    Trp W V Dorehill NMP
    L/Cpl R N Eaton NMP
    Trp W Hayes NMP
    Trp R J M Kincade NMP
    Trp R Shannon NMP
    Trp C M F Sparks NMP
    Trptr R V Stevens NMP

    Trp J Berning NMR
    Trp T Brown NMR
    Trp Burne NMR
    Trptr J J Horne NMR
    Trp D Moodie NMR
    Trp H Parsons NMR
    Trp Walsh NMR

    Trp A Muirhead VMR (Possibly NC)

    Lt G F Andrews (No 1 Coy NNP)

    Capt E Essex 75th
    Lt H L Smith-Dorrien 95th
    Interpreter P Brickhill
    Capt A C Gardner 14th Hussars


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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 17, 2012 7:00 pm

    I could be wrong, but I think this is the first list we have seen on this forum with reference to the survivors.
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    PostSubject: Isandlwana Survivors   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 18, 2012 12:52 am

    Hi Dave .
    I think there is at least 2 other lists somewhere on here !. :lol:
    Cheers 90th. Salute
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 18, 2012 3:15 pm

    dhragonheart
    De Burgh, Cooke, Bettington, Thomas, Edwards were neither survivors nor casualties of Isandhlwana - they simply were not there. (As a matter of fact David Edwards was also not in the MI.) You also have some of the initials/names wrong, but as you say, your database is far from complete.


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    PostSubject: Isandhlwana Survivors   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 18, 2012 4:02 pm

    Thanks Julian Salute

    Left out a couple of components on the database search query which is why the extra names were pick up. Names and Initials have come from a variety of sources, all of which do not agree, and the medal rolls which can be difficult to read sometimes.

    1877-78-79 Imperial & Colonial Database is still an ongoing project (about 8 years so far, and over 29,000 names, and 125 fields for each entry) it is inevitable that errors will creep in over time, or the wrong entry/or entry updated when new evidence or info is found.

    Still.............keeps me out of trouble :lol:

    Regards

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    P.S. above list amended Rolling Eyes
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 9:29 am

    Dragonheart
    You will find a complete list of survivors against which you can check your list in England's Sons. Against each name you will find the primary source which records that person, any accounts he left, etc, etc.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 11, 2013 11:55 pm

    Interesting announcement!! Wonder to whom there referring too.

    ""Any survivors from the Isandlwana disaster are urgently requested to supply infor... mation respecting A - - B - - , whose name appears among the killed. Will some of his comrades please say,-I. How and where was he 1 2. \Vhether he escaped from the carnage to the river, or was hemmed in with those who had no ammunition to use and were killed by the Zulus 1 3. Who saw him last, and under what circumstances ~ 4. Was he recognised after death, and was he buried~ 5. Was he much mutilated, and what was the manner of his death 1" Thus, as always, what was in the heart as the most important question of all was put off to the last."
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Jan 12, 2013 7:48 am

    John
    I think you'll find this pertains to Trooper Adrian Blaikie.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Jan 12, 2013 11:31 am

    Thanks Julian.. Would this announcement have been advertised by his familey.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Jan 12, 2013 11:47 am

    I believe it was from his family.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Jan 12, 2013 12:28 pm

    Thanks again Julian. They certainly wanted done details. Just out of interest was hs body ever recovered.
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    PostSubject: Re: ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS   ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS - Page 2 EmptySat Jan 12, 2013 12:38 pm

    Yes it was found and buried at Isandhlwana. There is a named marker over the grave.
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