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PostSubject: F.A Campbell Natal Mounted Police. Don't understand abbreviations.   Sat May 22, 2010 9:32 pm

F.A Campbell Natal Mounted Police.

He was awarded the SAGS. What is SAGS? There are other abbreviations, which I don’t understand so hoping someone can translate.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat May 22, 2010 11:07 pm

South Africa General Service?
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun May 23, 2010 6:18 am

Hi littlehand,
SAGS is definatley South Africa General Service, like amberwitch said, its was similar to the South Africa medal, but without the reverse date and instead a trophy of shields and weapons. The ribbon too is similar but with differing shades of colour and stripes. In begun to be issued in 1880.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun May 23, 2010 6:31 am

hi
couple more here

QSA-Queens South Africa Medal

‎was awarded to military personnel who served in the Boer War in South Africa between 11 October 1899 and 31 May 1902. Units from the British Army, Royal Navy, colonial forces who took part (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, India and South Africa), civilians employed in official capacity and war correspondents. The QSA (without bar) was also awarded to troops who were guarding Boer prisoners of war at the POW camp on the island of St. Helena

KSA-Kings South Africa Medal

The King's South Africa Medal or KSA was awarded to all troops who served in the Boer War in South Africa on or after 1 January 1902, and completed 18 months service before 1 June 1902. The medal was not issued alone but always with the Queen's South Africa Medal or QSA.

The KSA was awarded only to those troops who fought in 1902, and who had served for 18 months. Service did not have to be continuous, but even with continuous service the recipient would have had to serve from December 1900 to have 18 months service before the war ended in May 1902 (and commencing before the death of Queen Victoria on 22 January 1901). Hence the majority of participants qualified for the QSA only.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun May 23, 2010 6:41 am

hello again, the final abreviations

CGHGS- Cape of Good Hope General Service 1880-97 Basutoland - Thats all I know

CGHS- Dont exactly know, but I guess it could be Cape of Good Hope Service

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun May 23, 2010 10:57 am

"In 1880 it was decided that this 1853 medal should be awarded to all personnel—Colonial volunteers and native levies as well as British regular forces—who had served in any of the campaigns in South Africa between September 1877 and December 1879, namely the Gaika–Galeka War, the Northern Border War, the lst and 2nd Sekukuni Wars, the Moirosi's Mountain campaign in Basutoland, and the Anglo-Zulu War. A medal bar or clasp was to be attached to the suspender of the medal hearing the date or dates of the year or years in which the recipient had actually served in any of those campaigns. Any members of the military who had been mobilized in Natal but who had not crossed the Tugela River into Zululand, were to receive the medal without a bar. This included Naval shore parties.

Army Order No 103 of August 1880, which instituted the new South Africa Medal, made no mention of any change in design of the 1853 medal. However, the date '1853' was replaced in the medal's reverse exergue by a military trophy consisting of a Zulu ox-hide shield and four crossed assegais".

South Africa General Service Medal 1877-9

Description

The medal instituted for this campaign and issued in 1880, was similar in design to the South Africa Medal of 1853, but without the reverse date and instead a trophy of shields and weapons. The ribbon too is similar but with differing shades of colour and stripes. Twenty men are known to have served in both the campaigns of 1853 and 1879.

The medal could be awarded alone or with one of the following seven clasps along with numbers awarded:

No Bar 5,600
‘1877’ 150
‘1877-8’ 5,820
‘1877-8-9’ 3,520
‘1877-9’ 8
‘1878’ 2,000
‘1878-9’ 1,180
‘1879’ 18,330

A total of 36,608 medals were issued to British and Colonial troops, which included 1,829 medals awarded to the following RN ship’s, HMSs ‘Active’, ‘Boadicea’, ‘Euphrates’, ‘Himalaya’, ‘Orontes’, ‘Shah’, ‘Tamar’ and ‘Tenedos’. An undetermined number of medals were unclaimed and were returned to Woolwich.
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PostSubject: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:21 pm

The following list comprises the Medals issued to Navy and Marine personnel who served in the Zulu War that I am aware still exist. The list is based on medals that I have found as having been for sale, or in the possession of private individuals.

Please add any others that you may be aware of that are not on the list.

HMS Active (409 medals issued)

Private (RMLI), James Arnott – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, J. Banks - Medal, No clasp
Chief Engine Room Artificer, R. J. Barnes – Medal, No clasp
Gunner, Henry Bays – Medal with clasp “1877-78”
Signalman 2nd Class, Thomas Butler – Medal with clasp “1879”
Stoker, W. Buxey – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), Charles H. Cardell – Medal with clasp “1879”
Stoker, Charles Cawdry – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), W. Chapple – Medal with clasp “1879”
Midshipman, Lewis C. Coker – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, J. Collins – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, George Frederick Cook – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Bugler (RMLI), Thomas Henry Cook – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Edwin Coombs – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Ordinary Seaman, Richard Dobeer – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Leading Seaman, Edward Duffett – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Petty Officer 2nd Class, J. E. Edwards – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Petty Officer 1st Class, Richard Edwards – Medal, No clasp
Armourer, Arthur Essery – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Krooman, Tom Everyday – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Petty Officer 2nd Class, Edward Futcher – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Sub-Lieutenant, Thomas Guthrie Fraser – Medal with clasp “1879”
Naval Schoolmaster, John Gibson – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Benjamin James Gill – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Thomas Gleeson – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Ordinary Seaman, W. Glover - Medal with clasp "1877-8"
Bandsman, H. Goff – Medal, No Clasp (for sale with clasp “1877-78”)
Petty Officer 1st Class, Samuel C. Hackett – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Private (RMLI), H. Harding – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, William Harper – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Leading Stoker, W. Holloway – Medal, No Clasp
Able Seaman, Thomas Hunter – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Stoker, Joseph Jacobs – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, George Edward Leal – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Able Seaman, Henry Lee – Medal with clasp “1879”
Musician, Edward Smith Littlejohns – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, W. Lynch – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, George Maney – Medal, No clasp
Clerk, Ralph Balsom Marwood – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Ordinary Seaman, C. May – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Lieutenant A. B. Milne - Medal with clasp "1879"
Blacksmith, Samuel Morris – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Able Seaman, John G. S. Nops – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9” (The medal for sale is missing its clasp)
Staff Surgeon, Henry F. Norbury – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Able Seaman, M. O’Sullivan – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, William Page – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Stoker 2nd Class, W. Payne – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 2nd Class, Alfred Robert Pearce – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Petty Officer 1st Class, J. Pearce – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Able Seaman, William Peel – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Private (RMLI), William Pepperell – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Private (RMLI), William Rayner – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Plumber, Frederick R. Rimington – Medal, No clasp
Signalman, Edwin Charles Rogers – Medal, No clasp
Signalman 3rd Class, Charles Rowland – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Private (RMLI), Thomas Smith – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Able Seaman, Joseph Stanbury – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Ship’s Corporal 2nd Class, Robert D. Symons – Medal, No clasp
Midshipman, Henry William Thierens – Medal, No clasp
Assistant Paymaster, William Trew – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, Walter Ulmer – Medal with clasp “1877-8”
Private (RMLI), Walter Spratt Viney – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Petty Officer 1st Class, Edmond White – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Petty Officer 1st Class, Edwin Wilcox – Medal with clasp “1877-8”


HMS Forester (76 medals issued)

Signalman 3rd Class, Edward Carrick – Medal with clasp “1879”
Signalman 2nd Class, William Carroll – Medal with clasp “1879”
Private (RMLI), Robert Cummings – Medal with clasp “1879”
Private (RMLI), Thomas Griffin – Medal with clasp “1879”
Boy 1st Class, Francis I. W. Hines – Medal with clasp “1879”
Gunner, George Manley – Medal with clasp “1879”
Leading Stoker, John Joseph Moxley – Medal with clasp “1879”
Armourer’s Crew, Harry Leo Raddon – Medal with clasp “1879”
Petty Officer 1st Class, Charles Share – Medal with clasp “1879”
Domestic 3rd Class, G. Whitelock – Medal with clasp “1879”


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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:24 pm

HMS Boadicea (476 medals issued)

Petty Officer 1st Class, W Atridge – Medal, No Clasp
Ordinary Seaman, T. Bentley – Medal with clasp “1879”
Assistant Engineer, Charles Henry Biddick – Medal, No clasp (the medal for sale showed “1879” clasp)
Ordinary Seaman, Samuel Boxall – Medal with clasp “1879”
Carpenter’s Crew, James Edward Brown – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, George Butler – Medal with clasp “1879”
Lieutenant, Crawford Caffin – Medal with clasp “1879”
Midshipman, Arthur George Cawston – Medal, No clasp
Boy 1st Class, William Chapman – Medal, No clasp
Boy 1st Class, Frederick Clark – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, W. E. Clarke – Medal with clasp “1879”
Private (RMLI), Thomas Clayton – Medal, No clasp
Boy 1st Class, Richard Cleave – Medal with clasp “1879”
Clerk, Howard Cleveland – Medal, No clasp
Engine Room, Artificer John Clinch – Medal, with clasp “1879”
Lieutenant R. P. Cochran - Medal, with clasp "1877-8-9"
Engineer, John T. Coombes – Medal, No clasp
Engineer, I. A. Couper – Medal, No clasp
Lamp Trimmer, John Cotton – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, H. C. Creamer – Medal, No Clasp
Paymaster, Charles T. Dawson – Medal, No clasp
Ship’s Steward’s Boy, Harry Samuel Duesbury – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, J. Enderby - Medal with clasp "1879
Ordinary Seaman, W. F. Fabian – Medal, No clasp
Ship’s Corporal 1st Class, John Frampton – Medal with clasp “1879”
Boy 1st Class, William R. Fry – Medal with clasp “1879”
Surgeon, Robert Grant – Medal with clasp “1877-8-9”
Leading Stoker, James Harris – Medal, No clasp
Boy 1st Class, T. Harris – Medal with clasp “1879”
Corporal (RMLI), John Heazle – Medal with clasp “1879”
Midshipman, William W. Hewett – Medal with clasp “1879”
Lieutenant, Ernest C. Hobkirk – Medal with clasp “1879”
Midshipman, Charles Alexander Howell – Medal, No clasp
Stoker 2nd Class, Henry Hughes – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman (RNAV), R. V. Jennings – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, William Thomas Knight – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, J. Laing – Medal with clasp “1879”
Private (RMLI), William Likeman – Medal with clasp “1879”
Boy 1st Class, Henry Lintern – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, Edward Wallace Martin – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, Edwin Meades – Medal, No clasp
Torpedo Artificer, R. Mitchell - Medal with clasp "1879"
Domestic 2nd Class, Frederick Montague – Medal, No clasp
Fleet Surgeon, James Nicholas Joseph O’Malley – Medal, No clasp
Chaplain and Naval Instructor, Rev. A. Nicholls - Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, Henry Payne – Medal with clasp “1879”
Leading Seaman, William Thomas Payne – Medal with clasp “1879”
Engine Room Artificer, John Phillips – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, William T. Plastine – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Edwin Porter – Medal with clasp “1879”
Schoolmaster, William I. Quick – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 2nd Class, J. Roach – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, William Rose – Medal with clasp “1879”
Stoker, Charles Saunders – Medal with clasp “1879”
Yeoman of Signals, William Dixon Soper – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, George Sponder – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Charles Stevens – Medal with clasp “1879”
Petty Officer 1st Class, Jeremiah Sullivan – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, James Thomas – Medal with clasp “1879”
Writer 1st Class, William Hudson Thompson – Medal, No clasp
Bandsman, Henry Waight – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), George Waskett – Medal, No clasp
Naval Cadet, Gilbert R. West – Medal, No clasp
Armourer, Henry White – Medal with clasp “1879
Sailmaker, James H. Wilkins – Medal with clasp “1879”
Engineer, Samuel Joseph Williams – Medal, No clasp
Boy 1st Class, Sidney Wise – Medal, No clasp (Medal for sale showed “1879” clasp)

HMS Tenedos (197 medals issued)

Carpenters Crew, James Barbour – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, John Barton – Medal, No clasp
Leading Stoker, T. J. Bendle – Medal, No clasp
Lieutenant, Harold Godfrey Bird – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), Thomas Chard – Medal with clasp “1879”
Musician, John Choate – Medal, No clasp
Sick Berth Attendant, G. H. Cole – Medal with clasp “1879”
Leading Seaman, Edmund Cronin – Medal with clasp “1879”
Plumber, J. Driscoll – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, Robert James Gilbert – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, George Goodman – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, James Henley – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, Alexander Hoff – Medal with clasp “1879”
Petty Officer 1st Class, James William Howse – Medal with clasp “1879”
Domestic 2nd Class, William Long – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, William Luckridge – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, Edward Mitchell – Medal with clasp “1879
Private (RMLI), George Monk – Medal with clasp “1879”
Signalman 2nd Class, William H. Palmer – Medal, No clasp
Domestic 2nd Class, William Potham – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Daniel Reynolds – Medal with clasp “1879”
Domestic 2nd Class, C. A. Saunders – Medal, No clasp
Gunner (RMA), J. Sivter – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, W. Warner – Medal, No clasp

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:25 pm

HMS Shah (705 medals issued)

Private (RMLI), Job Arnold – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, William James Arscott – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, George Bailey – Medal with clasp “1879”
Chief Petty Officer, John Barry - Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Walter John Barwick – Medal with clasp “1879”
Sick Berth Attendant, T. Bedford – Medal with clasp “1879”
Shipwright, William Body – Medal with clasp “1879”
Domestic 3rd Class, James Bolwell – Medal, No clasp
Corporal (RMLI), George Breakspare – Medal with clasp “1879”
Private (RMLI), John Briscoe – Medal with clasp “1879”
Blacksmith, Thomas Bunce – Medal with clasp “1879”
Stoker, James Jonathan Burrow – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, J. F. Carter – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, E. Castellano - Medal with clasp "1879"
Able Seaman, Charles Chaplain – Medal with clasp “1879”
Clerk, John Henry George Chapple – Medal with clasp “1879’
Private (RMLI), George Combes – Medal with clasp “1879”
Surgeon, Jephson John Connell – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Owen Cooper – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Samuel Dawson – Medal with clasp “1879” (questionable)
Chief Carpenter’s Mate, Richard Deacon – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Michael Douglas – Medal with clasp “1879”
Stoker, Jonathan Dunstane – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, John Evans – Medal with clasp “1879”
Painter 1st Class, William Fudge – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, William Gallagher – Medal with clasp “1879”
Assistant Sick Berth Attendant, Henry Gamblin – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, William Jonathan Gay – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, James Gemmell – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, John H. Greenwell – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Edward Haddon – Medal with clasp “1879”
Stoker, J Hart – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, Robert Holloway – Medal, No clasp
Lieutenant, Hon. Patrick M. Hely-Hutchinson – Medal with clasp “1879”
Private (RMLI), George Hulands – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Henry Hussey – Medal with clasp “1879”
Petty Officer 2nd Class, Frank James – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, William Wilkins Kirkaldie – Medal with clasp “1879”
Chief Petty Officer, William W. Knowler – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Thomas Lewis – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, James Lloyd – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, T. Martin – Medal with clasp “1879” (Two “T. Martin” on the medal roll)
Able Seaman, James Moore – Medal with clasp “1879”
Leading Seaman, Daniel Morgan – Medal with clasp “1879”
Stoker, Michael Morrison – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Henry Newberry – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, William North – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Thomas D. Paples – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, John Parkhouse – Medal with clasp “1879”
Butcher, Arthur Parlett – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, John Pearson – Medal with clasp “1879”
Captain (RMLI), Joseph Philips – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ablle Seaman, J. Pitman - Medal with clasp "1879"
Leading Stoker, G. Pollard – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary, Turton Proctor – Medal with clasp “1879”
Petty Officer 2nd Class, George Ratsey – Medal with clasp “1879”
Engineer, J. Redgrave – Medal, No Clasp
Able Seaman, A. Rickman – Medal with clasp “1879"
Leading Seaman, William Rolfe – Medal with clasp “1879”
Chief Engineer, Thomas Sagar – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, F. H. Savage – Medal with clasp “1879”
Engineer, John Stocker Sanders – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, G. E. Serjeant – Medal, No clasp
Sergeant (RMLI), David Shill – Medal with clasp “1879”
Domestic 3rd Class W. H. Sleeman - Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), George Stevenson – Medal with clasp “1879”
Ordinary Seaman, E. A. Stewart - Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, W. H. Symons – Medal with clasp “1879”
Petty Officer 1st Class, J. W. Taylor – Medal with clasp “1879”
Domestic 2nd Class, Frank Trinder – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 2nd Class, Isaac Turner – Medal with clasp “1879”
Petty Officer 1st Class, Thomas Turner – Medal with clasp “1879”
Domestic 3rd Class, Charles Wassell – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Thomas Webber – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, James Wheadon – Medal with clasp “1879”
Colour Sergeant (RMA), Kennedy Whittaker – Medal with clasp “1879”
Leading Seaman, Thomas Wilkins - Medal with clasp "1879"
Private (RMLI), Charles Williams – Medal with clasp “1879”
Able Seaman, Thomas Wilshire – Medal with clasp “1879”


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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:26 pm

HMS Euphrates (261 medals issued)

Able Seaman, William Alexander – Medal, No clasp
Boatswain, John Richard Baker – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), J. Basten - Medal, No clasp
Domestic 3rd Class, Charles L. Black – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, T. Blackford – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, J. A. Bricknell – Medal, No clasp
Domestic 1st Class, Douglas S. Carnon – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), I. Chandler – Medal, No clasp
Surgeon, James Alexander Collot – Medal, No clasp
Domestic 3rd Class, William Duddleston – Medal, No clasp
Writer, George Faulkner – Medal, No clasp
Engine Room Artificer, George J. Frampton – Medal, No clasp
Cook’s Mate 1st Class, Edwin Hendy – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, George Hinde – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, T. G. Jones – Medal, No clasp
Baker, Edwin Moore – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, J. Moore – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, W. Pierce – Medal, No clasp (Seller listed his name as ‘Peirce’)
Petty Officer 1st Class, Henry Port – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, J. Pratt – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, Albert R. Prince – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, R. Redding – Medal, No clasp
Sub-Lieutenant, Herbert Neville Rolfe – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), James B. Robb – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, D. Rooke – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, H. Smith – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, T. W. Smith – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), Henry W. Sparey – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, W. Sparks – Medal, No clasp
Stoker 2nd Class, W. Spencer – Medal, No clasp
Cook 1st Class, S. Symons – Medal, No clasp
Leading Seaman, William Trigwell – Medal, No clasp
Lamptrimmer, George Frederick Walker – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, C. Wingate – Medal, No clasp

HMS Himalaya (229 medals issued)

Domestic 3rd Class, Samuel Bickley – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 2nd Class, E. J. Brook – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, W. Brookshaw – Medal, No clasp
Ships' Corporal 1st Class W. T. Carveth - Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, E. Clarke – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI) S. Davies - Medal, No clasp
Blacksmith, George Greenaway – Medal, No clasp
Ship’s Corporal, John R. Hall – Medal , No clasp
Able Seaman, W. Hallett – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, G. W. Hogben – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, J. S. Hoskings, Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, M. Keohane – Medal, No clasp
Sub-Lieutenant, Edward L. Lang – Medal, No clasp
Lieutenant, Edward Gilbert Francis Law – Medal, No clasp
Acting Engine Room Artificer, W. H. MacKinnon – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 2nd Class, Thomas Neill – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), G. Norris – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, J. Northmore – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI) H. D. Picking - Medal, No clasp
Signalman 2nd Class, Henry Pink – Medal, No clasp
Boatswain, William H. Pound – Medal, No clasp
Lieutenant, Daniel M Riddel – Medal, No clasp
Engineer, Samuel J. Robins – Medal, No clasp
Carpenter, Benjamin Sammels – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, R. Searle – Medal, No clasp
Sick Berth Steward, Robert Jameson Sime – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Alexander Hutcheson Thomson – Medal, No clasp
Boatswain, G. Trice – Medal, No clasp
Baker, R. Turner – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, R. Wheeler – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, J. T. Winter – Medal, No clasp
Carpenter’s Crew, G. Withers – Medal, No clasp


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HMS Orontes (226 medals issued)

Colour Sergeant (RMLI), James C. Ballantyne – Medal No clasp
Acting Engine Room Artificer, J. Boulton – Medal, No clasp
Signalman 2nd Class, J. G. Chambers – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, J. Coakley – Medal, No clasp
Surgeon, Horace Edward Firmin Cross – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, H. Edwards – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Edward Ewens – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, John Fury – Medal, No clasp
Chaplain, Rev. Charles Robert Gamson – Medal, No clasp
Navigating Lieutenant, Edmund E. Greaves – Medal, No clasp
Lieutenant, John Edward Greenhow – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Frederick Grevatt – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 2nd Class, Edwin Hammerton – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Joseph Harris – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Thomas Hearne – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, C. Irish – Medal, No clasp
Skilled Shipwright, David Jamieson – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, James Helleyer Kinch – Medal, No clasp
Chief Petty Officer, H. W. Martin – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Douglas Miller – Medal, No clasp
Barber, W. Rogers – Medal, No clasp
Assistant Ship’s Steward, Thomas B. Seaward – Medal, No clasp
Domestic 2nd Class, William George Sluman – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), W. J. Stamp – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Henry Thompson – Medal, No clasp

HMS Tamar (215 medals issued)

Assistant Baker, William Henry Barrett – Medal, No clasp
Domestic 2nd Class, Frank Batchelor – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, A. Bradford - Medal, No clasp
Ship’s Steward Boy, D. Constantine – Medal, No clasp (NMM shows with clasp “1878”)
Engineer, Richard James Weeks Earl – Medal, No clasp
Lieutenant, Robert W. Evans – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, Samuel Gawler – Medal, No clasp
Ship’s Cook 2nd Class, J. Grounsell – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, William Hancock – Medal, No clasp
Private (RMLI), Charles Hawkins – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, J. Hicks – Medal, No clasp
Staff Surgeon, Leonard Lucas – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, Francis McCalley – Medal, No clasp
Petty Officer 1st Class, Alexander McCarthy – Medal, No clasp
Ordinary Seaman, J. McGrath – Medal, No clasp
Navigating Sub-Lieutenant, Thompson Mclean – Medal, No clasp
Able Seaman, William Northmore – Medal, No clasp
Leading Stoker, Charles Pasker – Medal, No clasp
Stoker, John Pearce – Medal, No clasp
Plumber J. Short - Medal, No clasp
Leading Stoker, W. Stevens – Medal, No clasp (Listed as ‘Stephens’ on Medal Roll)
Ordinary Seaman, Henry Stokes – Medal, No clasp
Domestic 2nd Class, Edwin Woodland – Medal, No clasp

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:49 pm

Tom. Howlong did that take to put to-gether.

HMS Orontes (226 medals issued) So are we looking for the rest of the men to make the number up to 226.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:37 pm

Hi Petty Officer Tom

Shocked WOW Shocked

That is some list you have there. Well done mate Idea
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PostSubject: navy medals   Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:22 pm

Hi POT.
Fantastic list , you have done a wonderful job Idea Idea .
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:40 pm

Chard1879,

The majority of these names I have found over the past 6 or 7 years. I recently put the list together over the last couple of days. (with a little encouragement from 1879graves.)

Of the 2794 navy and marine personnel awarded the 1877-79 medal for the Zulu War I have only been able to find these 225 medals. (Just under 10%.)

To make this list I searched all major dealers in medals, ebay, geneology and anything else that pops up on the internet. All names listed have been checked against the medal roll for each ship.

I am still trying to located more medals and add their recipients to the list. All help appreciated.

Hopefully people searching medals in their possession will find this forum and add to the list.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:27 pm

CF71,

Good find! Thank you.

Samuel Dawson, A.B. was part of the Shah's naval brigade and is entitled to the medal with clasp "1879". Confirmed on the medal roll.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:22 am

Private Thomas Chard, Royal Marine, HMS Tenedos
ASHANTEE 1873-74, no clasp (Pte. R.M., H.M.S. Argus 73-74); SOUTH AFRICA 1877-79, 1 clasp, 1879 (Pte. R.M., H.M.S. Tenedos) the first a little polished, otherwise nearly very fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:21 pm

One would have to think that we only have the tip of the ice berg here, if we have 10% of the issued accounted for.
According to Chris Dixon in August 2005, 508 of 1710 NGS medals with Trafalgar clasps were known to be in existance.
This is some 30% and these were issued over 3 decades earlier.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:38 pm

tasker224,

I agree with you that 10% is a low figure for a medal that was issued just 130 years ago. Quite possible that many are in the possession of family members who do not want to part with them. The majority of the ones I have found were auctioned or for sale, and thus were on the internet.

I was hoping visitors to the forum would have kowledge of others and pass on the information. So far, only a couple of those.


1879graves,

Thank you for the Thomas Chard medal posting.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:49 pm

POT
I reckon you are right about the medals being in families' possession. Obviously as the decades pass, more will come on to the market.
I have been looking around but have not yet found any that you are not already aware of; I will keep looking!
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:30 pm

Hi POT
sorry, not very helpful I know, but we can't say with any reliability that the medal to Dawson of HMS Shah above is actually his.
The naming is wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:24 am

always appreciate and respect a survivors list, but you must be young, or I am old.

W. North - SHAH 1879
Wm. Rose - Boad. 1879
R. Wheeler - Him no bar
G.J. Frampton - Eur. no bar
Wm Chapman - Boad. 1879
John Barry - Shah 1879
John Parkhouse - Shah

Sorry if they lack details, I am sure you can look the ratings up on the rolls.

Chapman and Barry pretty special...Chapman KIA at Majuba, and Barry aboard Shah's torpedo expedition!

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:18 am

Pick,

Glad to see you back.

I already had Parkhouse’s name on the list. Where do the rest of the names come from? Where they for sale, or do you personally know of there existence?

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:12 am

They are in my collection, but not Parkhouse, he was a check mark in my DM book. And aside from Barry probably bought over 20 years ago, so no wonder you aint seen them :lol:

also got G. W. Hogben no bar for Himalaya, with no bar Egypt Achilles and LSGC if you haven't got this one listed.

I may have one or two more to list, and then I could of course look through old catalogues....but that takes a lot of effort. Have you looked through all the on line databases like DNW and Spink?
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:37 am

Pick,

Yes, I have checked DNW and the other auctions, plus ebay. It is probably where I have found most of my list.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:00 am

SIME (SIM), Robert Jameson Sick Berth Steward HMS Himalaya with LSGC - not in my collection but in private collection UK.

I will do some digging, sure I can come up with a few dozen more in my spare time, actually just pleased someone is logging them!

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PostSubject: royal navy medals known to exist    Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:35 am

Hi Pick .
Glad you dont have the Parkhouse medal as I have it !!!. :lol!: :lol!:

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:56 am

Hi P.O.T.

Here are some photographs of Chief Petty Officer Barry's medal that were on Ebay

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PostSubject: royal navy medals known to exist    Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:05 pm

Hi all.
For those who may be interested . I can tell you the Medal to R.J.SIME , Sick berth Steward , HMS HIMALAYA , was sold with his
Naval Long Service Good Conduct Medal and copies of his service paper and roll entry . He was born Edinburgh 2 / 12 / 44
Enlisted Boy 2nd Class 6 / 6 / 59. LSGCM marked Robert Sim , papers have both spellings . Auction opened 16 / 4 / 08 closed
26 / 4 / 08 , opening price 99 Pds , Closing price 721 Pds , Page was visited 369 Times and their were 15 Bids .
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:01 am

Hi all!

I have added 23 more names to the list. Those added since 22 January 2011, are the ones in RED. The list for HMS Himalaya will remain active for now since they did receive the South Africa Medal; just not for the Zulu War.

Thanks to Pick, CF71, tasker224, littlehand, 90th and 1879graves for their contributions to the list.


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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:05 am

Hi P.O.Tom

This one is for sale on DNW this September Auction

South Africa 1877-79, no clasp (R. Searle, A.B., H.M.S. Himalaya), edge nicks, very fine £180-220
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:32 pm


I have in my collection an SA medal to Marine Charles Hawkings who served aboard HMS Tamar.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:15 pm

1879graves,

Thanks. I will add Searle to the list. As of today, I have another 19 to add to the list.

redbatwing,

First let me welcome you to the forum. Glad to have you aboard.

Charles Hawkings, Pvt, Royal Marines is confirmed on the Medal Roll for HMS Tamar. On a different roll, he is listed as Charles Hawkins. Am I correct in assuming that his name is spelled “Hawkings” on your medal?

I saw your other posting about Carrick’s medal. What other 1877-79 navy medals do you have?


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PostSubject: Royal Navy Medals known to still exist   Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:03 am

Hi Redbatwing.
Welcome aboard , hope you enjoy your time here .
cheers 90th. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:06 am

PO Tom, thanks for your welcome(also to 90th for the same)

Marine Hawkins is spelt as such on the medal but on his records it is Hawkings.

Other medals are:

To HMS Active--Frederick Rimington-Plumber.

W.Payne-Stoker 2nd class.

Joseph Jacobs-Stoker 1st class.

HMS Euphrates--C.Wingate-Stoker.

W.Spencer-Stoker 2nd class.

R.Redding-Leading Seaman.

HMS Orontes--J.G.Chambers-Signalman 2nd class.

I collect to Stokers if possible but do'nt discount any medals to R.N.



HMS Himalaya--E.J.Brook PO 2nd class.

HMS Tenados--W.Warner-Stoker.

HMS Shah--M.Morrison-Stoker-2nd class.

HMS Boadicea--H.Hughes-Stoker 2nd class

And of course Carrick-Forester and Hawkins-Tamar.


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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:30 pm

ratbatwing, any chance of posting some photo on the forum. There is a section "1879 Anglo Zulu War Historical Memorabilia." take a look at what's already in there, members collections, some real good items. Unfortunately this section is only on view to members. Its under the "Links to photos of the Zulu War" Section
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PostSubject: Some More   Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:18 pm

Lieutenant R.W. Evans, no clasp HMS Tamar (Dixon's Gazette Winter 1996-97)
Engine Room Articifier J. Phillips, no clasp HMS Boadicea (ditto)
Chief Engineer T Sagar Royal Navy, no clasp (HMS Shah) (Dixon Gazette Spring 1995)

the last medal may not have the ship named on the rim, the catalogue implies it does not.

FYI

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PostSubject: Royal Navy Medals known to still exist   Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:22 pm

Hi Pick.
Welcome back , long time no hear , hope all is well in the US Of A !. Idea Idea .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:35 pm

Will post photos later in the week.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:23 pm

Updated

29 more names have been added to the list today, 11 of them have clasps. Each ship has at least one medal added. There are 5 Officers, 1 Chief Petty Officer, and 2 Colour Sergeants

Thanks to 1879graves, redbatwing and Pick for their contributions.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:38 am

Hi All

Here are some more for you

HMS Active G Maney - stoker - No bar
HMS Euphrates W Trigwell - Leading seaman - no bar
HMS Forester H L Raddon - Armourers Crew - 1879 bar
HMS Himalaya W H MacKinnin - Acting Engine Room Artificer - No bar
HMS Orontes T Seaward - Assistant Ships Steward - No bar
HMS Tenedos J Barton - Ordinary Seaman - no bar

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:14 pm

David,

Thank you for the additional names. I will include them in my next update. Are all of those medals in your collection?


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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:18 pm

Hi Petty Officer Tom

Yes that is just some of my Naval medals - those who attended the exhibition would have seen the others including Norbury.

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PostSubject: Royal Navy Medals known to still exist - Royal Marines    Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:10 am

Hi Petty Officer Tom .
Think you may find this interesting , I dont think its been posted before on the Forum .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Silver-British-Zulu-War-Medal-1879-named-rim-Royal-Marines-/200658533692?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb82e3d3c

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:48 pm

90th,

Thanks for that one. I will add it to the list on the next update.

William Likeman is confirmed on the Medal Roll as entitled to the clasp "1879". He served with the Naval Brigade of HMS Boadicea and would have been at the Battle of Gingindlovu. He was killed in action at Batanga 22 Mar 1880, and is remembered on the Boadicea Memorial. His medal was sent to his mother.



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PostSubject: Royal Navy Medals known to still exist - Royal Marines    Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:40 pm

Hi POT.
Thanks for the info , in hindsight that was a bargain buy !. I tried unsuccessfully to contact the seller on ebay on a couple
of occassions !. Suspect Suspect .
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PostSubject: Royal Navy Medals Still Known to Exist   Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:00 pm

Here are a couple of medals in my collection that are not recorded on your list.

Henry Pink, Signalman 2nd Class, HMS Himalaya - No Bar Medal
Robert Cummings, Private RM, HMS Forester - Bar 1879

I was also the successful bidder on the William Likeman medal which has been referred to here.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Navy Medals Known To Still Exist   Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:25 pm

Hi Andy

Welcome to the Forum.

Many thanks for sharing your information on your medals. They will be added to the list by Petty Officer Tom.

Your Avatar - are they Robert Cummings Medals?

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