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PostSubject: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:00 pm

Can't find these two as taking part at the defence at R.D.

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"CONCERNING the article in Saturdays News Letter about the mural tribute to Belfast soldier Richard Mussen who fought at Rorke’s Drift in the 1879 Anglo-Zulu war: I purchased a silver tankard in a Ballymena charity shop last year, only to discover when I cleaned it that it was presented to Lieutenant Barre Phipps, South Wales Borderers, who also fought in the same conflict at Rorke’s Drift.

I have done a limited research on Lieutenant Phipps. It was confirmed he fought at Rorkes Drift but I can’t find out what happened to him.

I am intrigued as to how such a precious object ended up in a charity shop in Ballymena. Perhaps there is a connection."
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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:15 pm

Hi Littlehand

Both did take part in the War, but not at Rorke's Drift.

Lieutenant A B Phipps was transferred to the 1st Battalion after the Battle of Isandhlwana, and subsequently acted as orderly officer to Colonel R T Glyn during the advance of the 2nd Division; was present at the Battle of Ulundi (severely wounded).

Private 2833 Richard Mussen, 2nd 24th, Medal but no Clasp.

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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:19 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:24 pm

Graves I have Phipps as being killed at Isandlwana.

§ "TELEGRAM FROM MAJOR GENERAL THE HON. H. CLIFFORD TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR, WAR (ST. VINCENT, JULY 23, 1879):—

"'I beg to forward a list of casualties:—Killed.—2nd Division—Captain Wyatt-Edgell and Farrier Sergeant Taylor, 17th Lancers; Corporal Tompkinson and Private Coates, 58th Regiment; Private Kent, 94th Regiment; Trooper Sifona, Shepstone's Horse. Flying Column.—Corporal Carter, R.A.; Bugler J. Burnes, Private W. Dirdley, 13th Regiment; Private Floyd, 80th Regiment; Trooper Jones, K.N. (sic) Horse. Wounded.—2nd Division.—Dangerously—Troopers Jones and Charles "Waste, 17th Lancers; Privates H. Yalder and W. Bowner, 21st Regiment; Privates N. Fash, W. Stewart, and M. Marony, 58th Regiment; Private Muzazu, Shepstone's Horse. Severely—Major R. W. C. Winsloe, Privates Swadle, G. Brown, F. Fidler, and J. Daveny, 21st Regiment;
Major W.D. Bond, Privates Catterell, H. Hawee, and W. Severett, 58th Regiment; Lieutenant H. C. Jenkins, 17th Lancers; Lieutenant A. B. Phipps, 1st Battalion 24th Regiment; Lieutenant G. E. Liebenrood and Sergeant Piper, 58th Regiment; Driver Breeman, R.A.; Hospital Bearer Mubique. Slightly—Lieutenant and Captain the Hon. R. S. G. Stapleton Cotton, Scots Guards; Lieutenant W. C. James, 2nd Dragoons; Lieutenant A. B. Milne, R.N.; Trooper J. Koyeau, 17th Lancers; Private Aly, 1st Battalion 24th Regiment; Private M. Murtah, 94th Regiment; Lieutenant Jenkins, Natal Native Contingent. Flying Column.—Dangerous—Lieutenant G. A. Pardoe, Private J. Davies, Mr.
Shepstone, and Bugler M. Cockling, 13th Regiment; Gunner J. Morton, R.A.; Privates P. Tulley and W. Hunt, 80th Regiment; Trooper Leagdo, Mounted Basutos. Severely—Gunner W. Morshead, R.A.; Sergeant R. Wood, R.E.; Privates J. Bourne, H. Owens, C. Johnson, W. Heit, and J. Curing, 13th Regiment; Sergeant Onerill, Privates A. Beecroft and M. Duffy, 80th Regiment;
Private J. Flood, 90th Regiment; Trooper P. Legos, Baker's Horse; 1098 Captain Hurber, Wood's Irregulars; Lieutenant Cowdell, Wood's Irregulars; Trooper Salein, Mounted Basutos. Slightly—Private P. Stokes, 13th Regiment.'"
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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:16 pm

"2nd Lieutenant Phipps Arthur Barre 1st Bn. 24th Foot (2nd Warwickshire) Severe Wound Ulundi 04 July 1879"
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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:45 pm

He doesn't appear on the Northeast Isandlwana casualty list.
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PostSubject: Tankard Link to zulu battle   Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:57 am

Hi Littlehand.
Not sure what you have posted there but they say 2nd Division Casualties , the 2nd division was only termed as such in the second invasion ???. Hope that makes sense . Checked the medal roll and Phipps isnt down as being killed anywhere !!.
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PostSubject: Tankard Link to zulu battle   Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:59 am

Hi all.
Checked ' The Noble 24th ' by N.Holme and it states , Phipps was severely wounded at Ulundi .
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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:07 pm

Private Richard Mussen was buried in Belfast City Cemetery, Section R1, Grave Number 128.

If we have any Irish members willing to have a look and see if his grave is marked with a headstone, please post photos if possible.
There are only a few graves to check in R1 Section

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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:11 pm

Arthur Barre Phipps
Date of Birth - 14th February 1858
First Appointment - 2nd Lieutenant (from Militia) - 24th Foot - 14th September 1878
Lieutenant - South Wales Borderers - 23rd January 1879
Captain - South Wales Borderers (1st Battalion) - 20th July 1883
South African War - 1879 - Zulu Campaign - Battle of Ulundi (severely wounded. Despatches, London Gazette, 21st August 1878. Medal with Clasp.
India General Service Medal 1854 with Clasp Burma 1887-89
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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:42 am

From the Belfast telegraph 1936.

"The death took place on Sunday at his home 22 dundee street (shankill rd) belfast of MR.RICHARD MUSSEN,who saw active service in the zulu war.The late MR MUSSEN,who was in his 76th year,joined the Royal Inniskilling fusiliers (27th Foot),at the age of 15,and on the outbreak of the Zulu War three years later volunteered for active service.He was transferred to the 2nd Battalion South Wales Borderers (24th Foot),and was one of 65 survivors of that regiment which held the position at Rorke`s Drift against repeated Zulu attacks.

In 1880 he was invalided home.On the outbreak of the Great War he joined the 9th Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles (36th Divison),and with him went his four sons and two sons in law. He was drafted to home service, and after being stationed at Ballykinler and Clandeboye was put on munition work. Full military honours were accorded the funeral, which took place this afternoon at the city cemetary"
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PostSubject: Re: Tankard link to Zulu battle.   Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:20 pm

Information relating to "Private Richard Mussen" as mentioned in the video "The Zulu War Hero" on the home-page.
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PostSubject: Tankard Link to zulu battle    Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:06 pm

Hi Pete.
In ' The Noble 24th ' by Holme there is a.... Musern , R. Private , 2833 ; 2 / 24th , Medal with NO Clasp
In the Forsyth Roll he is listed Private , Mussen R , 2833 2 /24th ; No Clasp Medal . They are obviously the same
man as the Regimental number is indded the same .
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