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PostSubject: Pte P. Mc Sally 2-21 foot   Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:20 am

I have a Queens south Africa medal with 1879 bar issued to 1595 Pte P. Mcsally 2-21 st. foot. Any information anyone might have would be appreciated. from what I have read part of the 2-21 was at the battle of Ulundi.
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PostSubject: Re: Pte P. Mc Sally 2-21 foot   Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:02 am

Hi Tom,

Yes they were.

What I think is more interesting about these medals to the 21st is that they went on to take part in the 1st Anglo-Boer War for which no campaign medals were awarded. A number of of the 21st were besieged at Potchefstroom which is an unheralded action, if he was there that would be great.

Have you searched for his service papers?

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PostSubject: Pte.P. Mcsally 2 / 21st Foot .   Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:32 am

I have a South African General service Medal , 1879 Clasp from the 2 / 21 , I will look through his service record tomorrow ,
but as far as I remember it doesnt give any specifics as to where he served , ie Ulundi etc . The papers only state ' South Africa '
with the months / year .
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PostSubject: Re: Pte P. Mc Sally 2-21 foot   Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:46 am

Hello 90th

The dates he was in SA should be a good indicator. I have a group to a Royal Engineer that clearly states enagaged "against the Boers 1880,81. Present at the siege of Lydenburg"

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PostSubject: Re: Pte P. Mc Sally 2-21 foot   Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:46 pm

SWB thank you. No I have not serched for his service record as yet.
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PostSubject: Pte.P. Mcsally 2 / 21st Foot .   Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:36 am

Hi Swb.
I checked the service records of my individuals medal from the 2 / 21st , seems he was a bit of a lad !. Promoted to Lce Corp ,
then Corp , then in confinement awaiting trial june 1879 , tried reduced to Priv ( Drunk On Duty ) . This happens two more times
again in July 79 and again in Nov 80 . Records state he took part in the Zululand Campaign 79 , Sekukuni 79 , Transv War 80-81
Burma 85 - 87 .
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PostSubject: Re: Pte P. Mc Sally 2-21 foot   Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:35 am

Hello 90th

Tidy! A good example of the hidden history of SAGS medals to the 21st. Do you have his IGS for Burma?

I wonder where he was in 1880-81. Have you read a 'A Rain of Lead' about the siege of Potchefstroom?

One of the gaps in my collection is a SAGS & IGS (Burma 1885-89) for the 24th Ft and SWB.

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PostSubject: Pte.P. Mcsally 2 / 21st Foot .   Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:43 am

HiSwb..
No I dont have his IGS for Burma and havent read ' A Rain Of Lead ' . My man may have been at Potchefstroom ??.
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