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PostSubject: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:10 pm

Does anyone have any information on a certain Mr Beaumont, he was with Chelsmford force on the 22nd of January.
Beaumont was the person who took Colonel Durnfords watch from his body with Dr Thrupp.

This is what i have on the watch and Beaumont

[b]"Stripped: a mess waistcoat, and the shirt beneath it, had been torn open, hanging from a slender chain fixed into a button-hole was a small gold watch and a bunch of charms. The expression of the face was peaceful, apparently disfigured by one long deep wound. Beaumont knelt down and removed the watch and chain, then taking up..

Thats all i have sorry

Any information would be greatly appreciated

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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:20 pm

Hi DB14

Do you have a First name or an initial for Mr Beaumont?
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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:02 pm

Gent's the answer may lay here. But I have been having some problems with my PC. And this document is taking ages to open. Let me know if you have any luck.
http://www.anglozuluwar.com/content/files/2010110416122230000100/The%20Defences%20of%20Msinga%20and%20the%20Biggarsberg%20after%20iSandlwana.pdf

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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:07 pm

Littlehand thank you for the link, it shows he was in the Zulu War, thank you Idea

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Sorry thats all i have, i have been working off a link by Littlehand on another topic and
by entering various words i have been able to put together the apperence of Durnfords
body when found how he was killed and the taking of the watch by a certain Mr Beaumont.

Heres the link where i found it, its the first extract.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VQwGAAAAQAAJ&q=deep

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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:15 pm

Not sure if this is the same book. Don't know who's its by "Ian Knights name is on the first page" If anyone knows the name of this book and author please let me know.
There is a reference to a " William Beaumont
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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:24 pm

Hi Littlehand.

The book i refer to is called the New Dance of Death

It is said to contain an eye witness account of the morning of the 23rd at Isandlwana.

In the Topic Durnfords watch you posted this link

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VQwGAAAAQAAJ&q=watch

Does anyone know where this book is avaible to buy, by typing random words such as
Watch, Deep and Mess i have been able to put together the Taking of Durnfords Watch.

Any help would be greetly apprecated

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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:33 pm

DB14 You asked
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"Does anyone have any information on a certain Mr Beaumont,"
Hopefully that what i have posted.
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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:49 pm

Thanks littlehand for the infomation, i geuss it seems he was in the war.

The only reason i asked again is this book is very clear when it states a
Mr Beaumont removed the watch.


Another mystery prehaps???


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PostSubject: "Any information please"   Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:21 pm

Hi All,
I have on record a certain William Henry Beaumont, who was born 24 February 1851 in India, the son of the late Lt-Col W. Beaumont, 23rd Madras Light Infantry. Educated at Sherbourne and Sandhurst, he was commissioned into the 75th (Stirlingshire) Regiment as an Ensign, August 187o. Promoted to Lieutenant later that year he was posted to South Africa in 1871 seeing service against the Bantu tribes. Resigned his commission in August 1875 to join the Colonial service in Natal.
Married Alice, daughter of the late John Millar, the Durban Member of the Legistrative Council.
William served as the Resident Magistrate of Newcastle during both the Anglo-Zulu war and the 1880-81 Anglo Boer war. In 1879 he served in the Natal Native Border Guard as Commandant of the Colonial Defensive District No: 1 (Klip River County) with the local rank of Captain (see footnote below). Later appointed Judge of the Supreme Court of Natal, 1892. Retired and knighted 3 May 1910. Served as the Chairman of the Native Land Commission from 1913 to 1916. Died in Durban 9 January 1932.
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The Natal Native Border Guard do list certain European Officers rank as "Mister", which may explain the "Mr Beaumont" references, however his medal for South Africa was with no clasp which indicates that he did not (officially!) cross into Zululand.
As a further aside his account of the war was published in the Natal Mercury Supplement 22 January 1929 entitled "Isandhlwana Could Have Been Averted"

Hope this is of some help.

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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Not sure if this is the same book. Don't know who's its by "Ian Knights name is on the first page" If anyone knows the name of this book and author please let me know.
There is a reference to a " William Beaumont
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PostSubject: W.H. Beaumont   Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:02 pm

Hi all.
This from Terry Sole 's book ' For God , Queen & Colony .
Colonial Commanders And Levy Leaders , District No 1 Klip River County .
Major . Beaumont , William Henry . Resident Magistrate Newcastle . Was acting Colonial Commander on
Dartnell's absence .
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PostSubject: Re: Any information please   Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:32 pm

Sorry guys, the book uses eye witness accounts but its just a story book.


Sorry for any innconvenice Idea

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PostSubject: Did they or didnt they take part in the zulu war.   Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:02 am

Hi DB.
Are you referring to '' The New Dance Of Death '' ? . I hope not I've bought it but havent read it as yet ? . Suspect .
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