WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Dawn Film. Chard: The army doesn’t like more than one disaster in a day.Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.
 
HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  GalleryGallery  PublicationsPublications  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Original Blue Books
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyToday at 11:11 am by rusteze

» Hitch had no luck with VC's
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyYesterday at 7:45 pm by 1879graves

» Gunner William George Taylor
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyYesterday at 10:08 am by Julian Whybra

» Rededication to Lance Sergeant James Taylor. 16tj June 2019
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyYesterday at 9:08 am by Frank Allewell

» Francis S Alcock
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 8:45 pm by 1879graves

» Rev-Thomas Foran
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 6:42 pm by 1879graves

» Gras Fusil 1874
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 5:11 pm by rusteze

» The Pigeon Pie Incident
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 1:42 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» Henry Hook VC
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 11:48 am by rusteze

» 1373 Pte Alfred Henry Hook VC.
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 9:17 am by ADMIN

» Lance Sergeant James Taylor (25B/82) E Company 2nd Battalion, 24th Regiment (2nd Warwickshire),
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 9:14 am by ADMIN

» My new project HELP WANTED
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyFri Jun 14, 2019 10:18 am by Julian Whybra

» Royal Marines of the Naval Brigade for the Zulu War
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyWed Jun 12, 2019 6:34 am by barry

» GPS Coordinates for Zululand Forts or II Division/Flying Column camps?
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyTue Jun 11, 2019 6:09 am by 90th

» Any 2nd Printing of Frontier Light Horse in the Anglo Zulu War of 1879 Planned?
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyTue Jun 11, 2019 5:15 am by Frank Allewell

Brev. Lt-Col. R.H. Buller, VC, Staff: 2/60th KRRC-Zungwini,Hlobane, Khambula, Ulundi
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle BullerBrev.[Mac and Shad] (Isandula Collection)
Anglo-Zulu war: Walking the battlefield of Kambula
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Top posters
90th
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
littlehand
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
ADMIN
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
1879graves
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
rusteze
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
John
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
impi
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Top posting users this month
1879graves
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
ADMIN
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
John Young
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
rusteze
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
90th
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Petty Officer Tom
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
aussie inkosi
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
scotrohrer2000
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_lefthandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Barhandgun using same ammo as MH rifle Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 3
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.

Share
 

 handgun using same ammo as MH rifle

Go down 
AuthorMessage
horsefixer



Posts : 37
Join date : 2010-07-25

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyThu Dec 29, 2011 2:44 pm

Can anyone (Neill, I guess!!) tell me whether there was a pistol or revolver which used the same ammunition as the MH?
Back to top Go down
ciscokid



Posts : 187
Join date : 2010-02-04

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyThu Dec 29, 2011 9:52 pm

horsefixer wrote:
Can anyone (Neill, I guess!!) tell me whether there was a pistol or revolver which used the same ammunition as the MH?

Have you seen the size of the bullets? Shocked
Back to top Go down
John

John

Posts : 2555
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 56
Location : UK

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyThu Dec 29, 2011 9:59 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Same caliber



Last edited by John on Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:06 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
1879graves

1879graves

Posts : 2908
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyThu Dec 29, 2011 10:03 pm

Martini-Henry cartridge and a .22 LR cartridge for comparison.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
John

John

Posts : 2555
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 56
Location : UK

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyThu Dec 29, 2011 10:07 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Martini-Henry pistol.
Back to top Go down
1879graves

1879graves

Posts : 2908
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyThu Dec 29, 2011 10:10 pm

Hi John

Suspect I would not like to be the one pulling the trigger of that pistol Suspect
Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
John

John

Posts : 2555
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 56
Location : UK

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyThu Dec 29, 2011 10:20 pm

It would certainly break you wrist.
Back to top Go down
Neil Aspinshaw

Neil Aspinshaw

Posts : 548
Join date : 2009-10-14
Location : Loughborough

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyFri Dec 30, 2011 9:52 am

.450 was standard calibre for the British Military, however calibre is only the bullets diameter not size, as this is referred to in grains of lead.

There was five standard sizes cartridges by 1879/1880

.577/.450 Mk3 Rifle round 480 grain bullet
.577/.450 Mk3 Carbine round 420 grain bullet
.450 Mk1 Adam Revolver round 225 grains
.450 Mk2 Cartridge SA Pistol 225 Grains
.502/.450 Gardner Gatling 480 grain


Not forgetting the Westley Richards .450 Pattern 2 480 grians and the .577 Snider.
Back to top Go down
http://www.martinihenry.org
barry

barry

Posts : 910
Join date : 2011-10-21
Location : Algoa Bay

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: MH velocity/kKnockdown capabilty    handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptyFri Dec 30, 2011 2:46 pm


Hi Neil ,

Thanks for cartridge date on MH and other weapons.
Would you perhaps know the FPS of the MH 480grn bullet say at 150m. It' sfall, or trajectory path at that range would also give some idea of its shooting ability. I suppose firing a MH singlehandely ( a la pistol mode) would be much like firing, pistol mode, a cut down 12gg shotgun, with a 450 grn slug in front of a magnum loading.

barry
Back to top Go down
Neil Aspinshaw

Neil Aspinshaw

Posts : 548
Join date : 2009-10-14
Location : Loughborough

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptySat Dec 31, 2011 10:24 am

Barry
initial Muzzle velocity is approx 1320 feet per second (about 400m) with de -acceleration beginning almost immediately, in foot / pounds energy this equates to approx 1920lbs

In other words the poundage on yer shoulder (recoil energy) is roughly calculated at 38lbs (rifle) and 40 lbs (Carbine), firing the rifle single handed would mean the chances of hitting anything remote, and the whole thing would be like a bucking bronco, its not something I have tried!.


To illustrate the de-acceleratiom, at a target on the ground at 500 yards, fired from prone, the bullets trajectory would reach an apogee of 8ft (2.4m) before decending.
Back to top Go down
http://www.martinihenry.org
barry

barry

Posts : 910
Join date : 2011-10-21
Location : Algoa Bay

handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: MH ballistics   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle EmptySat Dec 31, 2011 12:02 pm


Hi Neil,

Thanks for that.

barry
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty
PostSubject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle   handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Empty

Back to top Go down
 
handgun using same ammo as MH rifle
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: