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PostSubject: The Mount of Isandhlwana     The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 8:02 am


Hello

Well, well, here's a question that excites my curiosities and certainly one of many people ...

Only those who saw the Mount of Isandhlwana in real ,may be,answer in my opinion ...

A man could climb it at the top with his bare hands, without special equipment ...?

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PostSubject: The Mount Of Isandlwana    The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 8:40 am

Hi Pascal .
I havent been to Isandlwana but I'm sure there is or was a path you can take to climb to the top .
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PostSubject: Re: The Mount of Isandhlwana     The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 9:02 am

Bonjour Monsieur the 90 th.

First, a very happy new year to you and yours and above all a very good health.

Very good, January 22, 1879 was the same?

So, if so, nobody had the idea to place a lookout?

There was not one man who had his curiosities to see if it was possible to climb to the top?

And during the carnage, the Zulu did not describe any person who allegedly tried to climb to the top to save his skin?

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PostSubject: The Mount Of Isandlwana     The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 9:08 am

Hi Pascal .
Lookouts were placed on top of the hill but due to the topography they were of little use . Happy New Year to you and yours .
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PostSubject: Re: The Mount of Isandhlwana     The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 9:14 am


thank you 90th

What the field of view was wrong in the above?

Bizarre, Weird, Weird!

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PostSubject: The Mount Of Isandlwana    The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 9:19 am

Hi Pascal .
Those who have been there will be able to explain it far better than me . But , I know its basically useless as a
vantage point .
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PostSubject: Re: The Mount of Isandhlwana     The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 3:15 pm

In Major Mainwaring's report (page 197, The Noble 24th), he writes of seeing 3 figures of European appearance on top of the mount whilst out on sentry duty to the east of the mount, one wearing a white waterproof. He determines to climb the mount himself in the future. In September 1879, he starts up a path on the Eastern side of the mount. He doesn't complete his ascent as on climbing over a shoulder on the eastern side of the mount, he finds a cave filled with cartridge cases and shreds of a red serge tunic, so was clearly distracted form his original task. He subsequently finds the skeleton of a man of the 24th Foot, 100 yards below this cave.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mount of Isandhlwana     The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptySun Jan 01, 2012 4:19 pm


The amount is unusable as a vantage point is beyond me,

And since the amount that can be scaled, that during the carnage, there

have not been dozens of defenders who have not had the idea to go take
refuge on it, it surprises me too ...

If I had been at Isandhlwana, I become world champion climbing or running in an instand ...

This is the side of the camp we could climb Mount?

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PostSubject: Re: The Mount of Isandhlwana     The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptyMon Jan 02, 2012 5:41 am

The path up the mountain is from the North West Face. The troops had allready been driven past that point early in the battle.
The top of the mountain is below the level of the ridge from where the attacks came. It is useless as a vantage point, there was however a sentry stationed up there.
Have a look at Jamies web site, the photos from the top tell there own story.
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PostSubject: The Mount of Isandhlwana    The Mount of Isandhlwana  EmptyMon Jan 02, 2012 8:10 am

springbok9 ,hello and thank you.


So if the path to climb to the top was north-west of Mount Isandhlwana, which is why no one could take refuge up there during the massacre, now it's understandable, even for me .. .


And if in addition the amount is lower than the surrounding hills, this was a mistake to set up camp there.


He hid all the Zulu right horn to the defenders.

Though the defenders knew that the Zulu could be behind the mountain since the company Cavaye opened fire at 800 yards on Zulu down the valley to the west ward.

The zulus, howezer,did not turn aside to attack Cavaye ; but passing its front at long distance in loose order to carry out their usual encircling movement.

What a pity this battle! When I am old, I do it again this battle 1 000 000 000 times with my 28 mm figures.

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