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PostSubject: the best book ?   Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:01 am

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Strictly for the military side, what is the best book I have to buy on the Zulu War ...?

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:24 pm

The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Anglo Zulu War of 1879
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:20 am

Hello Dave

Oh yes, I forgot your book!

"The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Anglo Zulu War of 1879"

Written by Dave. Published by cretinous editions.

(only a copy sold, purchased by the author)

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:27 am

Hi 24 th

It is not expensive, but it speaks only of the 24 th, right?

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:11 am

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Any books written by Ian Knight, or Ron Lock & Peter Quantrill, are a must. Well, that's my humble opinion. I must say, you do ask a lot of questions!!!
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:33 am

Hello

Hi Warrior

Yes it's true, but only because I am ultra passionate, enraged by the Anglo-Zulu war and all the other colonial wars in South Africa (except the Boer War of 1899 / 1902).

I have a lot of livres.Mais is always the same, they are too general, it is necessary to buy a ton to find the information, the detail ...

Yet the questions that interest me, are interested necessarily as others ...

Thanks to the forum, I was able to solve many questions, but ultimately, it seems that the military side of this war does not interest many people on the forums.

For example the famous question about the number of companies in each regiment Zulu ...

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:52 am

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And what wrote David Saul is right?

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:44 pm

For Isandlwana the best book by fare is How Can Men Die Better, its the best book i have ever read.

Saul David's Zulu is also very good.



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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:24 pm

THANK YOU YOUNG MAN
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PostSubject: the best book   Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:32 pm

Hi DB14.
How can men die better is a great read but one has to be mindful that mike snook'ss work tends to be more of what he thinks took place , than actually what occured. I'm a firm believer of footnotes and Mike's work has a definite lack of them , which is off - putting to me anyway . But , as I said its a great read he has put together in his descriptions of what might have taken place on 22nd Jan 1879 .

Pascal .
There is no ' one book ' that will do what you wish it to do .
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:36 am

Hi all

Until a future purchase, I preferr is:


" Narrative of the field operations connected with the zulu war of 1879" ecrit par the Captain J.S.Rothwell,R.A. in 1880.

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:17 pm

ZULU Victory or HCMDB
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:50 pm

Hi Pascal
Zulu Rising, by Ian Knight. Builds up the whole story to the action at RD and subsewuently; uses only source material on which to base the narrative.
I agree with 90th assertion that HCMDB is written by an author who is also an oficer of the regiment descending fron the 24th, so is not unbiased. He also fills in any gaps based on what he thinks would have happened.
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:28 pm

good evening

The one I mentioned gives very low numbers of Zulu compared to what has been written later and now and it has been written in 1880 at the request of the British staff by an officer of the Royal Artillery! And accepted by the British staff in 1881...

Is not it a sign of honnetetée?

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:34 pm

good evening

90 TH to write "There Is No 'one book' That Will Do what you wish it to do."

Please TH 90, I wish what kind of book do you think? (please look your pm)

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:42 pm

Hi

There are not that many books that cover the whole war, most only cover one or two battles.

My favorite on the whole war as i have said is Zulu The Heroism And Tragady by Saul David.

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:31 pm

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PostSubject: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:23 am

Hi Pascal

I don't think you could go far wrong if you get books by Ian Knight. Companion to the AZW, is a very good book, Zulu rising is another one to look for. A must have book called 'Zulu Victory' by Ron Lock and Peter Quantrill makes for some excellent reading, but it is about the battle of Isandlwana and the cover up that followed that blamed the gallant Col Durnford. There are others to look out for such as, 'The illustrated guide to the AZW' by John Laband and Paul Thompson, 'In Zululand with the British Army' Charles L, Norris-Newman, and there is one that tells you the truth about the film zulu, called 'Zulu the truth behind the film' by Paul Raby, there is also the book that DB14 mentioned 'Zulu the heroism and tragedy' by Saul David.
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PostSubject: The Best Book    Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:49 am

Hi all .
Some good books mentioned here and a very good one purchased by ymob , ' The Noble 24th ' but it indeed only
really deals with that Regt . Pascal is wanting a book that deals with the MILITARY side of things , which there isnt
really one to do that with the exception of the book he has already which is ' The Narrative Of The Field Operations
Connected With The Zulu War Of 1879 '' by the Intelligence Dept .
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:44 am

Hello

Yes it's true, anyway all are valid (if you know what author says bullshit, what book do not buy, unfortunately next to the people of this forum, I know little about the Zulu Wars) by cons for uniforms, those published in Osprey are essential.

With some of this forum, I have bought five books including:

- The Zulu Army and Zulu Headmen .Compiled from informations obtained from the most reliable sources,and published by direction of the Lieut- General commanding for the informations of those under his command (First edition ,before the first invasion and second edition "revised"after the ...)Written by Chelmsford on Zulu for its officers...

- Black soldiers of the queen,the natal native contingent in the anglo-zulu war by P.S.Thompson.

- England's Sons ,A Casualty an Survivors's Roll of British Combants for the Battle of Isandhlwana and Rorke's Drift. by Julian Whybra.

- Forgotten Heroes Zulu & Basuto Wars Including Complete Medal Roll 1877-8-9 by Roy Dutton.

- Historical Records of the 24 Th Regiment,from its formation in 1689 by George Paton,Farquhar Glennie.

- Treatise on ammunition ,printed by Order of the Secretaty of State for War,Corrected up to DECEMBER ,1877

- The Atlas of the Later Zulu Wars 1883-1888 by John Laband

And now , I want a book avec information on the number of coys in each zulu regiments for each battles !

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:52 am

Dear Garry

The Zulu War Was a war, too, Normal Is Just To Be Interested in the military side of Things, right?

And I'm sure not the only Being in this case ...

Not forget that it is above all a war ...

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PostSubject: The best book   Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:45 am

Hi Pascal .
Agreed . It's normal to seek information on a subject you are interested in . You seem to have a good selection of books .
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:44 am

I have much, but it's mostly osprey and not all of the Zulu war because I like also the other colonial wars in South Africa and in the future Rhodesia .

For example, with the figures of the Zulu War, you can also face the Xhosa figures in 1877- 78 and Pedi figures in 1878-79 or the Boers in 1881-82 but not the Basutos in 1880 alas ...

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PostSubject: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:09 pm

Hi Pascal

I forgot to mention a good book that might be of interest to you, and that is; 'Uniforms and Weapons of the Zulu War' by Christopher Wilkinson - Latham, it gives details of the parties involved, ie; The British Army, The Colonial Troops, and The Zulu Army, giving details of items worn and carried by the Zulu regiments involved, this may be of great interest to you in making and painting the various regiments of the Zulu Army. It is a good book, however, it would be better if it had more coloured plates, but it is well worth keeping an eye open for it. Take a look on eBay or Amazon, you may get lucky and obtain a good copy of it.
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:15 pm

Genial ,thanks !
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PostSubject: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:33 pm

Hi Pascal

I have sent you a PM.
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:21 pm

"With His Face To The Foe" I think this is the best book Ian Knight has written. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:33 pm

Thank you MR Cooper and Matt of the administration, by dint of buying books, I'll end up bum!

In any case "I" so that war, that even bad books are good for me.

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PostSubject: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:02 pm

Hi Pete (Admin)

I have heard a lot about this book about the Prince, thanks for the recommendation, I will have to add it to my collection.

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:11 pm

Echo Admin's words Idea
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:57 am

Hi all

But no one likes ?

"Narrative of the Field Operations connected with the Zulu war of 1879" written by the Captain J.S.Rothwell, R.A. in 1880.

It should be as close to reality, it is the bible for this war ...

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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:50 pm

The book of Mr Jackson !
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PostSubject: Re: the best book ?   Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:08 am

Virtually everyone agrees, it's good !
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