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PostSubject: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:54 pm


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PostSubject: Regimental uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:22 am



Hi littlehand,
Thanks for the nice pictures of the NC, FLH and NMR .The modellers will like those.
Note the revolvers carried holstered on the left hip by two of the NC figures..


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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:41 am

HI all

The last two come from the Campaign No. 14 of Osprey, is not it?

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PostSubject: Three Colonial Regimental uniforms    Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:19 pm

Hi Pascal .
You may be correct .
cheers 90th. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:34 pm

The first one is from an old copy of 'Military Modelling', the artist R.J. Marrion is a living artist and copyright should be attributed to him, or his permission sought to show the painting. I could telephone him and ask if it o.k. with him for it to be on the site?

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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:12 pm

Bonsoir à tous

I have all the osprey on the Zulu War and they are fine, except that there are differences between the very old and very recent on the equipment of the colonial troops ...

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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:00 pm

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The first one is from an old copy of 'Military Modelling', the artist R.J. Marrion is a living artist and copyright should be attributed to him, or his permission sought to show the painting. I could telephone him and ask if it o.k. with him for it to be on the site?

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Hi. Jim. Littlehand would have posted the image source if there had been a copyright showing. But it would be appricated if you could asked the owner of the copyright, to be on the safe side.. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:17 pm

The images were from a public domain site, no notice of copyright.
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:20 pm

Littlehand,

Which site was it I'll ask RJ if he has given his permission for it to appear on there? But I somehow doubt that he has!

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I'll ring him in the morning, he would have had his Horlicks by now!

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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:29 pm

How odd is that. My kids have just had their "Horlicks" It works ....
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:41 pm

Thanks Jim.
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:35 pm

Admin,

I've spoken at length this afternoon with R. J. Marrion, someone I have known for nearly forty years, he states quite clearly that the Natal Carbineers painting is still his Copyright and that he has not given his permission for it to be displayed on any websites.

I have looked at a website where I believe that Littlehand found the Natal Carbineers picture, and it appears that image along with another of other Copyrighted images have merely been copied from R. J. Marrion's published works, as well as the works of other living artists and posted online. It is R. J. Marrion's intention, along with at least one of the other artists whose work has been illegally reproduced to seek legal advice on the matter of breach of copyright.

After he has calmed down a bit I might ask him if he will permit the use of some of his artwork on this site, but in the meantime it might be prudent to remove the Natal Carbineers picture from this post.

Sorry best I can do for now.

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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:53 pm

This is becoming a regular accurance on the forum. I was talking to a legal college at work regarding this. The best way to rectify this. Is to ask for proof of copyright which in this case Littlehand is entitled to ask. Most media sites like e-bay have started doing this. As the owner of the copyright you have a reference number. This can be check on line. Problem solved. Not saying the copyright in this case isn't correct, but where does it stop if the question is not asked. " prove you have copyright ownership" Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:24 pm

I know Jim as gone to the trouble of seeking permission from the owner of the copyrightn but Chard is correct. If someone is claiming copyright then it should be easy to prove. Its easy to take an image and put the copyringht mark on it. And again Chard is correct, ebay have starting to allow images to stay until ownership of copyright is proven..
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:01 pm

Chard & 24th,

In my conversation this afternoon R. J. Marrion stated that he retained the copyright over some 85% of his produced works of art. An on-line check reveals that he has assigned copyright to the Canadian War Museum of some of his paintings.

As to Chard's legal colleague stating about a reference number, that is not something I have never come across, perhaps he could explain further or indicate where such number would be found or obtained? Especially as I have produced copyright material and never been given any reference number.

As to the question 'prove you have copyright ownership'? Look on the Natal Carbineers picture bottom right for the signature of R. J. Marrion, and compare it with the other on-line examples.

Personally, despite the fact that he is 83 years old, I still wouldn't like to incur his wrath!

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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:04 am

Will post more on this later on today.
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PostSubject: Re: Two Colonial Regimental Uniforms   Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:41 am

Thanks Jim. Image Removed. Let me know if he changes his mind, Any additional images he may have will also be welcome.

With his permission of course. Salute
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