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PostSubject: In your opinion...   Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:17 am

Hi all

In your opinion, what time the morning of January 22, 1879, Where to should ,Pulleine and /or Durnford , according to reports they had, making the right defensive dispositon could have prevented the massacre?

And why?

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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:21 pm

Pulleine and Durnford have not see it coming ?
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:29 pm

They were to busy having Breakfast, and arguing about who was in-commard. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:32 pm

The new orders Lord C issued did not mention anything on fortifations being built in case of a Zulu attack Salute

Every one belived they could beat the Zulus without them.


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PostSubject: In your opinion   Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:55 pm

In my opinion, Chelmsford should have left orders with Pulleine, to give to Durnford on his arrival at the camp if he wished him to take command.

Pulleine could, and should, have done a lot more than he did to find out more about the numbers of Zulus that had been reported in the area, and should have done a lot better than he did at organising some sort of defence for the camp long before Dunford arrived.

DB is right, there was far too much complacency.
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:03 pm

On first hearing of thousands of Zulus advancing on the camp Pulline's first steps should have been

Stand all the Men to

Send a trusty officer out to find and report back the size of the enemy

Send a report to his OC telling him what was happening



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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:20 pm

Good evening everyone

What I find strange is that between the first sighting of the Zulu and the beginning of the attack, no one really worried.

Yet the Zulus had been spotted in large numbers several times,

then they should be in front of Dartnell and Chelmsford,

Durnford was completely stuck on their intentions and Pulleine began to wake up at noon...

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PostSubject: In your opinion .   Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:34 pm

Hi all .
Pascal you need to look at the situation in 1879 , not the year 2012 after we know what's happened . Never once did
Pulleine or anyone in the camp expect to be attacked . Chelmesford was worried that he wouldnt be able to get the zulu to
fight a pitched battle , let alone attack a camp with over 1200 people in it . I've read were Pulleine had mentioned he would be happy for the zulu's to attack , '' so we can give them a right Thrashing '' or words to that effect , not sure who overheard it ,
or where I saw it . But , I have read it in 2 or 3 Books / Publications . You need to study mo
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:18 am

Garry

If with all the reports received since 8.00 am, Pulleine did not expect to be attacked is much he despised the Zulu, but above all he lacked imagination ...

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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:47 pm

Pulleine had mentioned he would be happy for the zulu's to attack .Also Here is one, who died happy !
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:09 am

Virtually everyone agrees, it's good !
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:57 pm

Pascal MAHE wrote:
Virtually everyone agrees, it's good !
Again!! Why? you seemed to asking and answering you own questions, then assume everyone agrees with you?
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:02 pm

Same answer as previously Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: In your opinion...   Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:19 am

As I say aillor to Chard1879: that is to say that "that say nothing consent"
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