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PostSubject: Anyone know the name of the officer.   Anyone know the name of the officer. EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 11:49 pm

"An officer in advance from Chelmsford's force gave this eyewitness account of the final stage of the battle at about 3:00pm.

"In a few seconds we distinctly saw the guns fired again, one after the other, sharp. This was done several times -a pause, and then a flash – flash! The sun was shining on the camp at the time, and then the camp looked dark, just as if a shadow was passing over it. The guns did not fire after that, and in a few minutes all the tents had disappeared."
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PostSubject: Anyone Know the name of the officer    Anyone know the name of the officer. EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 11:59 pm

Hi 24th .
The only officer that I know who witnessed the demise of the camp and stated as such was Hamilton Browne , no doubt there
were other officers with him who also witnessed the event , but off hand , I dont know if they left a known report . Possibly Harness also left a report as he was heading to the camp until Cleary I think it was caught him up and said C'ford had ordered
him to return back to Mangeni I think it was .
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone know the name of the officer.   Anyone know the name of the officer. EmptyWed Mar 21, 2012 4:55 pm

Inspector Mansel of the NMP.

Although what he writes is strange Suspect



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Wasnt Mansell with C'ford ? . If so , he couldnt have seen anything as he was to far away . I may be wrong but dont have access to my books .
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone know the name of the officer.   Anyone know the name of the officer. EmptyThu Mar 22, 2012 8:18 pm

90th

I believe the Mansle incedant is covered in Zulu Victory or HCMDB

It might have something to do with Shepstone ?


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PostSubject: Insp Mansel NMP   Anyone know the name of the officer. EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 7:37 pm


Hi 90th,
Correct , Mansel was with Chelmsford and did not return to the camp until much later when the column returned with fixed bayonets and to spend the night there. Interestingly, at that time some tents were still standing as some of the NMP column members slept in them, or the remains of them.
I seem to think that Harness was possibly the officer who brought the report back.

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone know the name of the officer.   Anyone know the name of the officer. EmptyFri Apr 13, 2012 10:16 pm

90th, its not ZV Its on page 49 of The Sources rexamined by David Jackson ( The best book )



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