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PostSubject: The Irish Connection.    Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:06 pm

We have the Devon Connection. And the Devon Naval Connection.
I would like to add an Irish connection. Contributions welcome. Salute

Irish born members of Rorke’s Drift Garrison.

Henry Turner Private 1st Battalion Ballsbridge Dublin.
Henry Gallagher Sergeant 2nd Battalion Thurles Co.Tipperary
Patrick Hayes Drummer 2nd Battalion Newmarket Co. Clare
James Bush Private 2nd Battalion St Johns Dublin
Timothy Connors Private 2nd Battalion Killeaty Co. Cork
James Dick Private 2nd Battalion Island Mage Co. Antrim
James Hagen Private 2nd Battalion Nenagh Co. Tipperary
Thomas Lynch Private 2nd Battalion Limerick
John Lyons Private 2nd Battalion O’Briens Bridge Co. Clare
Michael Minehan Private 2nd Battalion Castlehaven Co. Cork
Agustus Morris Private 2nd Battalion Dublin
Thomas Robinson Private 2nd Battalion St Patricks Dublin
Michael Tobin Private 2nd Battalion Windgap Co. Kilkenny

Members of Rorke’s Drift Garrison who enlisted in Ireland

Patrick Galgey Drummer 2nd Battalion . Enlisted Cork 1865
Garret Hayden Private 2nd Battalion . Enlisted Dublin 1865
John Manley Private 2nd Battalion . Enlisted Cork 1865
Michael Kiley Private 2nd Battalion Enlisted Ireland

Members of Rorke’s Drift Garrison with Irish names and possible Irish Connections.

Patrick Desmond Private 1st Battalion
William Horrigan Private 1st Battalion
Thomas Buckley Private 2nd Battalion
Anthony Connors Private 2nd Battalion
John Fagan Private 2nd Battaloin
John Murphy Private 2nd Battalion
?? McMahon Private Army Hospital Corps
Louis Byrne Acting Commissariat Officer

Irish killed in action at Rorke’s Drift ; John Fagan , Patrick Hayden , William Horrigan and Louis Byrne.

Major Gonville Bromhead VC. B company 2/24th Regiment. Mother Judith born in County Sligo.
1112 Corporal John Lyons. Born in Ireland shot in spine bullet later removed.

Others with possable Irish connections in 2/24th Regiment.

568 Patrick Desmond. Wounded while defending hospital.
2381 Drummer James Keefe.
Drummer John Meehan.
1381 Pte Thomas Barry.
1220 Pte Thomas Burke.
1396 Thomas Collins.
906 Pte John Connolly.
1357 Pte Michael Deane.
971 Pte Thomas Driscoll.
963 Pte michael Kiley.
662 Pte John Murphy.
1651 Pte John Scanlon. killed in action.

Natal Native Contingent.

Corporal M. Dougherty.

Commissairat Department.

James Langley Dalton VC attested in Waterford.
?? Dunne.

Royal Artillery.

Gunner John Cantwell. Born in Dublin .


Other Irish Victoria Cross winners during the Zulu War of 1879.

Pte. Francis Fitzpatrick 94th Regiment. Born Co. Monaghan.

Pte. Edmund Fowler born Co. Waterford.

Lt. Nevill Coghill born in Drumcondra , Dublin . Killed attemping to save Melville during his roll in saving the colours at Isandlwana.

Major William Knox Leet 13th Somersetshire light Infantry. Born in Dalky , Dublin.

Capt. William Leslie de La Poer Beresford 9th Queens Royal Lancers. Born Co. Armagh.

"Colonel Anthony Dunford, born in Co. Leitrim.

Lt. Neville Cohgill, a native of Drumcondra, Co. Dublin and another to Surgeon James Reynolds of Dun Laoghaire (Kingstown). Among the survivors of Rorke's Drift was Richard Mussen who died at his hom 22 Dundee Street, Belfast in January, 1937."
Source war talk.

" Thomas Lane Born in Cork, in May 1836. fought in the Anglo-Zulu War as a Sergeant with the 3/NCC. This unit was disbanded at Rorke's Drift after the siege and the officers and non-commissioned officers formed three troops of the Natal Horse. He also fought in Landrey's Light Horse in Basutoland 1881-82."

1505 Private Henry Adair, 80th Regiment - Born Belfast.
392 Private John Adams, 90th Regiment - Born Co. Galway.
1916 Private James Asher, 80th Regiment - Born Cork.
947 Private Alexander Allen, 90th Regiment - Born Belfast.
1959 Private David Allen, 91st Regiment - Born Coalisland, County Tyrone.
2097 Gunner Thomas Allender, Royal Artillery - Born Derry.


Major General William Edward Moyses Reilly (13 July 1827 - 28 July 1886





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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:10 pm

"Born in Cork, in May 1836 Thomas Lane fought in the Anglo-Zulu War as a Sergeant with the 3/NCC. This unit was disbanded at Rorke's Drift after the siege and the officers and non-commissioned officers formed three troops of the Natal Horse. He also fought in Landrey's Light Horse in Basutoland 1881-82."
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:49 pm

1505 Private Henry Adair, 80th Regiment - Born Belfast.
392 Private John Adams, 90th Regiment - Born Co. Galway.
1916 Private James Asher, 80th Regiment - Born Cork.
947 Private Alexander Allen, 90th Regiment - Born Belfast.
1959 Private David Allen, 91st Regiment - Born Coalisland, County Tyrone.
2097 Gunner Thomas Allender, Royal Artillery - Born Derry.

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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:03 pm

Graves Salute Added to list.
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PostSubject: The Irish Connection   Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:36 am

Hi Littlehand .
With your post regarding Thomas Lane 3 NCC ? . I suppose you mean NNC ? . He isnt listed in the NNC Roll's by Forsyth
or the Terry Sole Roll either !. scratch scratch . What was the source of your post ? .
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:32 am

Hi 90th

It looks like this Thomas Lane?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lane_%28VC%29
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PostSubject: Geneology - The Irish Connection.   Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:53 am

Hi Graves .
Thanks for that , it now makes sense , I have a feeling Thomas Lane may have been covered before . As he is one of 8 unfortunates to have forfeited their V.C'S . He is indeed on the Forsyth Roll under the Natal Horse . It also states since 1920 the Forfeiture of VC'S was discontinued , and it appears his Zulu War Medal with the 1879 Clasp was also forfeited Suspect .
Terry Sole's book ; ' For God , Queen & Colony ' has the same information .
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:31 pm

668 Sergeant Patrick Kelly, 80th Regiment - Born Derrygonnelly, Fermanagh, Northern Ireland.
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:53 pm

Sergeant William Henderson, 54, who left behind a wife, Annie, and three daughters at 44 Warkworth St. A member of the 13th Royal Irish Rifles and a veteran of the Zulu War of 1879, he was killed in action on Aug. 25, 1917.
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PostSubject: The Irish Connection   Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:40 am

Going by the dates and his age that would make him only 16 during the zulu war . Salute
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:30 am

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Going by the dates and his age that would make him only 16 during the zulu war .
Cheers 90th.

There would have been quite a few in the Zulu War around that age, or younger.
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PostSubject: The Irish Connection   Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:41 am

Hi 24th.
That is true , no doubt there were many others as you say . Salute
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PostSubject: The Irish Connection   Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:50 pm

What about Walter Alphonses Dunne, architect of the measly bag wall, recommended for VC. From Cork or Kerry, I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:32 pm

Nice one Kevin.

DUNNE, COL. WALTER ALPHONSUS, C.B., of 28, Victoria St., S.W., and of the Junior United Service Club ; son of the late Jas. Dunne of Dublin, was born Feb. 10, 1853 ; was educated at Queen's Univ., Ireland ; joined the Army in 1873, and has seen active service in the Kafir War of 1877-8 ; the Zulu War (being present at Rorke's Drift and Ulundi) ; the Sekukuni Expedition of 1880 (despatches), the Boer War 1S80-1 (siege of Potchefstroom ; despatches) ; the Egyptian Campaign, 1882,(present at Tel-el-Kebir) ; and the Suakin Expedition, 1885. Col. Dunne has been Asst. Q.M.G-. at Army Headquarters since Jan. 1900, and represents the War Office on the Army Med. Advisory Board. He married, July 23, 1885, Winifred, dau. of the late John Bird, C.M.G., Treasurer of Natal.
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PostSubject: Irish Connection   Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:27 pm

Allegedly my great uncle. have a copy of his book Adventures in Zululand, interesting reading.
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:29 pm

Hi again folks, Just want to amend the records. John Manley did enlist in Cork, Ireland. He was also born in Ireland. Cheers x
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PostSubject: The Irish Connection    Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:49 pm

Hi agoodcuppa
Thanks for the update Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:14 pm

Here's an illustration to add to this post:

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Lord William Beresford V.C.
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A lithograph originally published 15th September 1888 in the Sporting Gazette & Agricultural Journal.

For those remotely interested in the Irish connection there is this forthcoming work from Helion Books, more when I have finished annotating the prints and photographs for the book as to the publication date:

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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:50 pm

Very exciting to me! a Japanese image i believe, and
an imaginative treat.. the cover looks amazing, so
much better than the lazy offerings of recent years.
sounds by the amount of work still to do a  late 2015
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:13 pm

Les,

We hoping for mid-2015 release possibly at Trinity College, Dublin.

The illustration is entitled The Drums of the 24th it accompanied a short story of the same name written by Captain Charles Gilson, that appeared in On Guard edited by Herbert Strang, published circa 1919.

I think the Japanese took the print to heart after their forces fought alongside the S.W.B.'s in World War 1.

BTW check your e-mails for a laugh!

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PostSubject: The Irish Connection    Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:57 pm

Hi John
Excellent work , I'll be adding it to my collection , as will many others I'd imagine ! You need to study mo You need to study mo
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PostSubject: Re: The Irish Connection.    Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:11 pm

Hear hear 90th  Salute
Thanks JY. will do.
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