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+8agoodcuppa John impi kevindunne 24th 90th 1879graves littlehand 12 posters | Author | Message |
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littlehand
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| Subject: The Irish Connection. Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:06 pm | |
| We have the Devon Connection. And the Devon Naval Connection. I would like to add an Irish connection. Contributions welcome. Irish born members of Rorke’s Drift Garrison. Henry Turner Private 1st Battalion Ballsbridge Dublin. Henry Gallagher Sergeant 2nd Battalion Thurles Co.Tipperary Patrick Hayes Drummer 2nd Battalion Newmarket Co. Clare James Bush Private 2nd Battalion St Johns Dublin Timothy Connors Private 2nd Battalion Killeaty Co. Cork James Dick Private 2nd Battalion Island Mage Co. Antrim James Hagen Private 2nd Battalion Nenagh Co. Tipperary Thomas Lynch Private 2nd Battalion Limerick John Lyons Private 2nd Battalion O’Briens Bridge Co. Clare Michael Minehan Private 2nd Battalion Castlehaven Co. Cork Agustus Morris Private 2nd Battalion Dublin Thomas Robinson Private 2nd Battalion St Patricks Dublin Michael Tobin Private 2nd Battalion Windgap Co. Kilkenny Members of Rorke’s Drift Garrison who enlisted in Ireland Patrick Galgey Drummer 2nd Battalion . Enlisted Cork 1865 Garret Hayden Private 2nd Battalion . Enlisted Dublin 1865 John Manley Private 2nd Battalion . Enlisted Cork 1865 Michael Kiley Private 2nd Battalion Enlisted Ireland Members of Rorke’s Drift Garrison with Irish names and possible Irish Connections. Patrick Desmond Private 1st Battalion William Horrigan Private 1st Battalion Thomas Buckley Private 2nd Battalion Anthony Connors Private 2nd Battalion John Fagan Private 2nd Battaloin John Murphy Private 2nd Battalion ?? McMahon Private Army Hospital Corps Louis Byrne Acting Commissariat Officer Irish killed in action at Rorke’s Drift ; John Fagan , Patrick Hayden , William Horrigan and Louis Byrne. Major Gonville Bromhead VC. B company 2/24th Regiment. Mother Judith born in County Sligo. 1112 Corporal John Lyons. Born in Ireland shot in spine bullet later removed. Others with possable Irish connections in 2/24th Regiment. 568 Patrick Desmond. Wounded while defending hospital. 2381 Drummer James Keefe. Drummer John Meehan. 1381 Pte Thomas Barry. 1220 Pte Thomas Burke. 1396 Thomas Collins. 906 Pte John Connolly. 1357 Pte Michael Deane. 971 Pte Thomas Driscoll. 963 Pte michael Kiley. 662 Pte John Murphy. 1651 Pte John Scanlon. killed in action. Natal Native Contingent. Corporal M. Dougherty. Commissairat Department. James Langley Dalton VC attested in Waterford. ?? Dunne. Royal Artillery. Gunner John Cantwell. Born in Dublin . Other Irish Victoria Cross winners during the Zulu War of 1879. Pte. Francis Fitzpatrick 94th Regiment. Born Co. Monaghan. Pte. Edmund Fowler born Co. Waterford. Lt. Nevill Coghill born in Drumcondra , Dublin . Killed attemping to save Melville during his roll in saving the colours at Isandlwana. Major William Knox Leet 13th Somersetshire light Infantry. Born in Dalky , Dublin. Capt. William Leslie de La Poer Beresford 9th Queens Royal Lancers. Born Co. Armagh. "Colonel Anthony Dunford, born in Co. Leitrim. Lt. Neville Cohgill, a native of Drumcondra, Co. Dublin and another to Surgeon James Reynolds of Dun Laoghaire (Kingstown). Among the survivors of Rorke's Drift was Richard Mussen who died at his hom 22 Dundee Street, Belfast in January, 1937." Source war talk. " Thomas Lane Born in Cork, in May 1836. fought in the Anglo-Zulu War as a Sergeant with the 3/NCC. This unit was disbanded at Rorke's Drift after the siege and the officers and non-commissioned officers formed three troops of the Natal Horse. He also fought in Landrey's Light Horse in Basutoland 1881-82." 1505 Private Henry Adair, 80th Regiment - Born Belfast. 392 Private John Adams, 90th Regiment - Born Co. Galway. 1916 Private James Asher, 80th Regiment - Born Cork. 947 Private Alexander Allen, 90th Regiment - Born Belfast. 1959 Private David Allen, 91st Regiment - Born Coalisland, County Tyrone. 2097 Gunner Thomas Allender, Royal Artillery - Born Derry. Major General William Edward Moyses Reilly (13 July 1827 - 28 July 1886
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| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:10 pm | |
| "Born in Cork, in May 1836 Thomas Lane fought in the Anglo-Zulu War as a Sergeant with the 3/NCC. This unit was disbanded at Rorke's Drift after the siege and the officers and non-commissioned officers formed three troops of the Natal Horse. He also fought in Landrey's Light Horse in Basutoland 1881-82." |
| | | 1879graves
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:49 pm | |
| 1505 Private Henry Adair, 80th Regiment - Born Belfast. 392 Private John Adams, 90th Regiment - Born Co. Galway. 1916 Private James Asher, 80th Regiment - Born Cork. 947 Private Alexander Allen, 90th Regiment - Born Belfast. 1959 Private David Allen, 91st Regiment - Born Coalisland, County Tyrone. 2097 Gunner Thomas Allender, Royal Artillery - Born Derry. More to follow |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:03 pm | |
| Graves Added to list. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: The Irish Connection Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:36 am | |
| Hi Littlehand . With your post regarding Thomas Lane 3 NCC ? . I suppose you mean NNC ? . He isnt listed in the NNC Roll's by Forsyth or the Terry Sole Roll either !. . What was the source of your post ? . cheers 90th. |
| | | 1879graves
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:32 am | |
| Hi 90th
It looks like this Thomas Lane? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lane_%28VC%29
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| | | 90th
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| Subject: Geneology - The Irish Connection. Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:53 am | |
| Hi Graves . Thanks for that , it now makes sense , I have a feeling Thomas Lane may have been covered before . As he is one of 8 unfortunates to have forfeited their V.C'S . He is indeed on the Forsyth Roll under the Natal Horse . It also states since 1920 the Forfeiture of VC'S was discontinued , and it appears his Zulu War Medal with the 1879 Clasp was also forfeited . Terry Sole's book ; ' For God , Queen & Colony ' has the same information . cheers 90th. |
| | | 1879graves
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:31 pm | |
| 668 Sergeant Patrick Kelly, 80th Regiment - Born Derrygonnelly, Fermanagh, Northern Ireland.
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| | | littlehand
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:53 pm | |
| Sergeant William Henderson, 54, who left behind a wife, Annie, and three daughters at 44 Warkworth St. A member of the 13th Royal Irish Rifles and a veteran of the Zulu War of 1879, he was killed in action on Aug. 25, 1917. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: The Irish Connection Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:40 am | |
| Going by the dates and his age that would make him only 16 during the zulu war . Cheers 90th. |
| | | 24th
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:30 am | |
| - Quote :
- Going by the dates and his age that would make him only 16 during the zulu war .
Cheers 90th.
There would have been quite a few in the Zulu War around that age, or younger. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: The Irish Connection Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:41 am | |
| Hi 24th. That is true , no doubt there were many others as you say . Cheers 90th. |
| | | kevindunne
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| Subject: The Irish Connection Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:50 pm | |
| What about Walter Alphonses Dunne, architect of the measly bag wall, recommended for VC. From Cork or Kerry, I believe.
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| | | impi
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:32 pm | |
| Nice one Kevin.
DUNNE, COL. WALTER ALPHONSUS, C.B., of 28, Victoria St., S.W., and of the Junior United Service Club ; son of the late Jas. Dunne of Dublin, was born Feb. 10, 1853 ; was educated at Queen's Univ., Ireland ; joined the Army in 1873, and has seen active service in the Kafir War of 1877-8 ; the Zulu War (being present at Rorke's Drift and Ulundi) ; the Sekukuni Expedition of 1880 (despatches), the Boer War 1S80-1 (siege of Potchefstroom ; despatches) ; the Egyptian Campaign, 1882,(present at Tel-el-Kebir) ; and the Suakin Expedition, 1885. Col. Dunne has been Asst. Q.M.G-. at Army Headquarters since Jan. 1900, and represents the War Office on the Army Med. Advisory Board. He married, July 23, 1885, Winifred, dau. of the late John Bird, C.M.G., Treasurer of Natal. |
| | | kevindunne
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| Subject: Irish Connection Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:27 pm | |
| Allegedly my great uncle. have a copy of his book Adventures in Zululand, interesting reading. |
| | | John
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:47 pm | |
| http://arrow.dit.ie/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=schfsehoth |
| | | agoodcuppa
Posts : 7 Join date : 2011-03-31 Age : 54 Location : Nottingham
| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:29 pm | |
| Hi again folks, Just want to amend the records. John Manley did enlist in Cork, Ireland. He was also born in Ireland. Cheers x |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: The Irish Connection Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:49 pm | |
| Hi agoodcuppa Thanks for the update Cheers 90th |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3230 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:14 pm | |
| Here's an illustration to add to this post: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Lord William Beresford V.C. John Young CollectionA lithograph originally published 15th September 1888 in the Sporting Gazette & Agricultural Journal. For those remotely interested in the Irish connection there is this forthcoming work from Helion Books, more when I have finished annotating the prints and photographs for the book as to the publication date: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]John Y. |
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:21 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:50 pm | |
| Very exciting to me! a Japanese image i believe, and an imaginative treat.. the cover looks amazing, so much better than the lazy offerings of recent years. sounds by the amount of work still to do a late 2015 release?. |
| | | John Young
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:13 pm | |
| Les,
We hoping for mid-2015 release possibly at Trinity College, Dublin.
The illustration is entitled The Drums of the 24th it accompanied a short story of the same name written by Captain Charles Gilson, that appeared in On Guard edited by Herbert Strang, published circa 1919.
I think the Japanese took the print to heart after their forces fought alongside the S.W.B.'s in World War 1.
BTW check your e-mails for a laugh!
Regards,
John Y.
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| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: The Irish Connection Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:57 pm | |
| Hi John Excellent work , I'll be adding it to my collection , as will many others I'd imagine ! Cheers 90th |
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:11 pm | |
| Hear hear 90th Thanks JY. will do. |
| | | lorryloads
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:07 pm | |
| Henry Frederick Winchelsea Ely of the 99th Regiment of Foot was born in Modreeny, Co. Tipperary, Ireland. He reached the rank of Major General. He also served in the Chinese Opium Wars and captured the Chinese Emperor's Clothing which are now on display in the The Rifles (Berkshire and Wiltshire) Museum. I think his lineage is extinct but he had one daughter.
He is a grand uncle of Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Henry Ely of the King's Shropshire Light Infantry who was killed in Action in Tunisia in 1943. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Henry Frederick Winchelsea Ely 99th Regt Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:19 am | |
| Cheers Lorryloads. According to the Forsyth Roll ; Bvt Lt Col H.F.W.Ely was awarded the ' Zulu War Medal ' with Clasp 1879 , and a further notation states he also had the ' China ' War Medal with Clasp for 1860. 90th |
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| | | | John Young
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:01 pm | |
| Lorryloads,
I hope you don’t mind me correcting your last paragraph.
The 99th fought in two major actions of the Zulu War, the Battles of Nyezane, 22nd January 1879, and Gingindlovu, 2nd April 1879.
Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel Ely was part of the besieged garrison of the KwaMondi Mission Station, Eshowe, between 23rd January 1879, until its relief on 3rd April 1879.
Regards,
JY |
| | | lorryloads
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:36 pm | |
| I stand corrected |
| | | 1879graves
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:44 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]St Stephen's Church, in the Parish of Frensham and District of Shotter Mill |
| | | lorryloads
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:03 am | |
| Thank you for sharing this! |
| | | LisetteCousins
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:07 am | |
| Private Patrick Collity 2364 65th Brigade 94th Regiment of Foot. Born 1 March 1858, Curravough, Tralee, County Kerry, Ireland. In January 1879 he was in Buttevant, County Cork, Ireland in the Military - taken from marriage entry. He came to South Africa with his Regiment in the Spring of 1879, a medal was returned as he absconded. He remained in South Africa, married and had a large family. |
| | | 90th
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| Subject: The Irish Connection Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:50 pm | |
| https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2487523
This was kindly sent to me from Forum Member Kaveman , I didn't realise Bvt Col Ely 99th Regt served out here . Hopefully the link works ? . 90th |
| | | 1879graves
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| Subject: Re: The Irish Connection. Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:52 am | |
| Hi LisetteCousins
Fantastic research with regards to Patrick Collity.
Does the photograph of him appear in his obituary?
Could you post a copy of his obituary on the forum?
Graves1879 |
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