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very interesting. thanks for posting
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Who are these boys dressed in black who died in a tree and were found underneath?
Would these be the band boys under the apparatus for hides?
Would band boys wear black and not scarlet?
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I guess it's a referece to some troopers from the police or the NC.
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I guess it's a referece to some troopers from the police or the NC.

Where abouts on the battlefield is it conceivable - bearing in mind their movements - that NMP /NC were in trees?
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thinredlineMOD wrote:
I guess it's a referece to some troopers from the police or the NC.

Where abouts on the battlefield is it conceivable - bearing in mind their movements - that NMP /NC were in trees?
Don't know if it's reasonably possible to determine the state of vegetation back then but if anything it seems there was much less brushes/trees than today. I'd think the most likely places are in the rear of the hill and along fugitives trail.
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Most of the police, around 19, were found at the foot of the Stonnie Koppy surrounding Col. Durnford,
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Which would leave about seven others dying elsewhere.
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Which would leave about seven others dying elsewhere.
Assuming the "tree" in question was the hide-stretching apparatus, similarly to JC's crucifix being referred to as a tree in many texts, would there be any possibility of the band boys wearing black.. I would think not?
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I'm far from being an expert on Victorian era uniforms but I don't think there's any possibility that the band boys would've worn black. And there were quite young boys or young looking men in the colonial units. Trooper Jackson from the NC for example was 16.
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Hi All .
I've just read my copy of the ' Natalia ' booklet , I think they may be referring to the Voorloopers or Native bearers / helpers that were employed by either the army or civilian contractors . They certainly arent band boys or any other European type of soldiers in my opinion . You need to study mo
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Hi 90th,
that you say may be more likely indeed. What I think was confusing is these boys being described as wearing all black. I would've expected some variation in civilian attire or in the case of vorloopers not much clothing at all. I know Cetshwayo seems to have associated civilans with black clothing because of his order to spare their lives. But in fact I've yet to see a contemporary photograph that shows civilians in black except when in quite formal or businesslike situations. (To be fair, I haven't seen that many photos scratch )
Anyways, the boys in question being the band is certainly too far-fetched.

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