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Up for sale at Spinks 22/11/12

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PostSubject: Re: 2231 Pte B Walters 17th DCO Lcrs clasp 1879   2231 Pte B Walters 17th DCO Lcrs clasp 1879 EmptyThu Nov 22, 2012 12:47 pm

Hammer 600 £720 post fees - looks like condition didnt put anyone off
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PostSubject: Re: 2231 Pte B Walters 17th DCO Lcrs clasp 1879   2231 Pte B Walters 17th DCO Lcrs clasp 1879 EmptyThu Nov 22, 2012 2:01 pm

This medal looks like it was worn with pride, on the chest, on horseback.
17th Lrs medals are increasing in value.
First burial party at iSandlwana and Ulundi charge connection.

This man may well have had several other medals on his chest.
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I agree - a nice medal and sold at about market. I did a bit of research before the sale and came up blank ,no service papers and not on the LS&GC roll. I had a quicj shufti around the other medal rolls for the period and found nothing.

I agree there is a premium on 17th SAGS and far more justifiable given the charge at Ulundi than the premium on 1879 clasped 1/24th medals.

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Thanks SD, that's interesting. I know the 17th Lrs were distinguished in the Crimea and at Omdurman in 1891. Were they on campaign any time between the AZW and the Sudan?
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I believe they were in India until 1890 . Back in South Africa during the later part of the Boer War. I usually check the Egypt roll it is the most likely campaign for further medaled service at the time. see the 60th , RE etc

I do have a medal to a private (servant)who transferred into the 17th with his officer and then went on to Egypt again with his officer...

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