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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:24 pm

Interesting photo. But one things for sure. It is the young Prince.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:25 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:38 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:15 pm

the photo of the prince with Lt arthur bigge and Lt wodehouse next to the artillery piece is there a larger resolution of that photo? as the one in ISANDULA's photo section is too small for me too see

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:53 am

Hi All,
I just thought I would chip in with this, a friend of mine in Oz made this 120mm converted model figure depicting the last stand of the Prince Imperial.
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PostSubject: Napoleon Eugene , Prince Imperial    Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:49 pm

Hi Richie .
Your Aussie mate deserves to be congratulated , another example of excellent craftsmanship . Great Job !.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Thu May 24, 2012 8:52 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sun May 27, 2012 3:38 pm

Hi Pete

Prince Bonaparte scratch

There is the British and the Bonapartists to believe that he was a prince

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Tue May 29, 2012 8:25 pm

The Young Prince.

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Wed May 30, 2012 6:30 am

hI Pete

If he had returned to France after the 1870 war, he saw what was done to princes in France ...

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Wed May 30, 2012 10:16 am

Pascal. I don't understand what you are saying. Please explain. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Wed May 30, 2012 12:56 pm

Hello Chard

It's very simple, the Bonapartes were not legitimate rulers of France, because they took power by coup ...

And in addition, to be crowned Emperor!

Only citizens who vote can give the right to govern someone, for a defined time period ...

And it can only be president or prime minister ...

Secondly, for me there has never been and there will never be princes or whatever it is that kind of there, all men and women are equal, the nobility that exists only for those with servile spirit ...

If Bonaparte had tried to return to France to take power ,after the zulu war , it would have happened misfortune ...

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:32 pm

French Prince Imperial Napoleon Eugene Louis Jean 1869
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:36 pm

"The; Prince Imperial left England with his faithful French valet, Uhlmann, and two English grooms recommended to him by some military man in London. On a certain morning he accompanied a small reconnoitring party into the bush where they made a halt. While they were dismounted they were surprised by a body ot Zulus and surrounded. The Prince was marvel- lously skilful in vaulting into the saddle without touching the stirrup, even when his horse was movin This he no doubt attempted on the fatal day, but owing to a twist or strain from which lie had been suffering he probably failed, but succeeded in putting his left foot in the stirrup. Ah he threw his leg over, the stirrup leather gave way, broke in two, and he iell back- wards. ... I ^a\v the saddle and examined it. It bore the traces of what I have tried to describe. I'll-- leather was cut or deeply scratched all across the saddle by the Prince's spur as he fell back. Now, when too late, it was recognized and bitterly deplored, that had the Prince's equip- ment been of different make he might have escaped, although alone, abandoned, and unaided,the terrible death that awaited him.

I was not surprised that the Prince had wished to stop and sketch. It was a pastime of which he was particularly fond and he did water colours rather prettily : a talent he no doubt inherited from the Emperor, whose principal amusement it was during his captivity at Ham. In 1839, when returning to the United States from Florence after the death of the Queen, his mother, my father obtained permission of the French Government to visit his cousin, Prince Louis Napoleon ; he brought back a charming souvenir, a small land- scape painted by the Prince. It was mounted in tortoiseshell — a card case and memorandum book combined. It took my six-year-old fancy and I have never forgotten it, though I cannot remember seeing it after we left America.

It was to Lord Sidney that the Queen confided the saddest of all missions — to acquaint the

This statement is confirmed by the late Dr. Archibald Forbes, who was in Zululand as a war correspondent and
knew the Prince Imperial well, and who wrote —

"No doubt he made a desperate effort, trusting to the strength of his grasp on the band of leather crossing the pommel from holster to holster. That band tore under his strain. I inspected it next day and found it no leather at all, but paper faced. So that the Prince's fate really was attribut- able to shoddy saddlery." — Century Magazine, June 1893"


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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:44 pm

For those interested in the funeral of the Prince. Start from page 292
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"I plead forgiveness, oh my English readers,
if ever my Memoirs fall into your hands.
Remember then that the writer, who loved her
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for nearly thirty-two years been wounded every
day by some heathen, who purposely or ignorantly
had wantonly crushed her heart, crushed her
spirit, hurt her pride, abused her country, stamped
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:15 pm

Thank you for the link. She had a remarkable life.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:48 am

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PostSubject: Napoleon Eugene , Prince Imperial    Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:05 am

Thanks to Pete and Isandula for posting and sharing such a rare item from history . I'm sure I speak for many by saying
it's much appreciated .
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:21 am

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:25 pm

Great Video!  Photos in there I haven't seen before.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:53 pm

yeah Pete that was very well done,
i appreciate how long that process
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as ctsg says, excellent selection!
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:55 pm

and while your there, whats the
script with emoticons, they work
they dont, for me.Mad 
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:04 am

xhosa2000 wrote:
and while your there, whats the
script with emoticons, they work
they dont, for me.Mad 
A when adding an emoticon, always leave a space after the text, then add smiley

PS. That video wasn't one of Pete's that video has a different user name.
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PostSubject: Napoleon Eugene Prince Imperial    Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:18 am

Well worth watching , I agree with CTSG some in there I hadnt seen before . Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:52 am

hey gary:Salute:  hope your well away
from all that hot s..t. god bless those
folks cought up in that.Sad  not long to
go mate. your ashen face will say it all.
s..t no pun intended.

c'mon city c'mon city, best in the land and
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:10 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:24 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:18 am

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:15 am

Now Chislehurst Golf Club.

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PostSubject: Napoleon Eugene , P.Imp    Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:18 am

Hi JY
Well I'll be .......... !  Shocked 
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PostSubject: Napoleon Eugene , P.Imp    Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:21 am

And here it is ! , I find that quite amazing ! .

http://www.chislehurstgolfclub.co.uk/

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:52 am

Best pic of the imp i have seen
for a long time, thanks for sharing
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:57 pm

I'll agree with Les, on that one.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:52 pm

Hiya John.  agree 
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:01 pm

Les,

The photographer for the Prince Imperial photograph above was Gosta Florman of 28A Regeringsgatan, Stockholm, Sweden, photographed in 1878.

Here's another in the same sitting:

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:11 pm

Thank's JY, most kind, i cant recall who
said to another. " he looks every inch the
Spaniard ". as we know he was highly
thought of by some, weighed down by
responsibility and duty its no wonder he
dashed around Zululand like a man possessed!.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:30 pm

Hi All,
For anyone interested in having a go at a bit of modelling and painting, this is a new 54mm vignette just released of the last stand of the Prince Imperial.
It has been sculpted and painted by Jose Hidalgo and is available from Beneito Miniatures, ref code MD29.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:35 pm

Richie absolutely out-standing.  agree  you may have already said, but where do you buy your models?
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:42 pm

Hi John,
The one posted is a recent release from Beneito Miniatures in Spain, Jose Hidalgo sculpted this and painted this version for the box art, he has also done a few other Zulu war pieces and there will be more in the pipeline no doubt.
I have an order in for this one and I had a look in the box at the Northern Model show last week and it's a nice set. It is also available in this country from SK Miniatures (Steve Kirtley) as a set or individual figures.
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PostSubject: Napoleon Prince Imperial    Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:00 am

Hi Richie
Thanks mate for posting the Model much appreciated .
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:49 pm

CDV Photo of Napoleon Prince Imperial France Eugénie de Montijo
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:42 pm










For those that don't speak French, there are some nice photos.
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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:01 am

Can anyone confirm, if this is the princes "Death Mask" the reason I asked is because the the left eye seems to be depicting an injury ?

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:38 am

SAS1,

The Prince's right eyeball was pierced with a spear as is shown in the death-mask on the right of the two images.  For a better photograph of it see the rear jacket of With his Face to the Foe by Ian Knight.  The wound going downwards from eyelid to eyelid.

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:45 am

John Young wrote:
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The Prince's right eyeball was pierced with a spear as is shown in the death-mask on the right of the two images.  For a better photograph of it see the rear jacket of With his Face to the Foe by Ian Knight.  The wound going downwards from eyelid to eyelid.

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PostSubject: Re: Napoléon Eugène, Prince Imperial   Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:02 am

Chard1879,

It was in the Aldershot Museum of the Hampshire Museum Service sometime ago.

Whether it is still there on display I can't say I'm afraid.

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