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PostSubject: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyThu Jun 27, 2013 3:26 pm

Hi all

It seems he does not have to rely on the book of Toby Giese - there is much speculation, lies, unsubstantiated and wild things. This is a épouvantable book .It's true ?

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A poor re-hash of Morris ?
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PostSubject: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyThu Jun 27, 2013 5:39 pm

Hi Rascal .
I dont have it as I think it received unfavourable reviews , but I may be wrong .
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Yes Marsupial ,after god it's a poor re-hash of Morris !
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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyThu Jun 27, 2013 7:00 pm

Pascal,

'The Men of the 24th' leaves a great deal to be desired.

That's being polite.

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Yeah, now I know, but it's good to learn before ,no ? Very Happy
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PostSubject: The book of Toby Geise    The book of Toby Giese EmptyFri Jun 28, 2013 8:52 am

Rascal I think it may be more prudent to buy other books on the war . I dont think you can go past Norman Holme's ' The Noble 24th ' . It's always on sale on Ebay uk for the bargain basement price of 12.50 GBP'S. An absolute bargain .
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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyFri Jun 28, 2013 9:11 am

Now you see my friend, the genre of things that interested me most in this war, there is therefore no one who deals with technical aspects and sub-tactics of this war? With many statistics showing the actual thing?
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Hi Rascal .
Unfortunately it seems not .
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Given the mass of books on this war, this is not normal !!!
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This is a épouvantable book .It's true ?
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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 1:40 pm

Pascal MAHE wrote:
This is a épouvantable book .It's true ?

Bonjour Pascal,

For me, it's a very "poor" book, only a few photos are interesting (never seen in other books)...
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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 1:59 pm

Hello Frederic

Yes it seems like many other books about this war, must have time to spare to read this book, it's troubleshooting, with the conflicts which have'm writing a lot ...

There is more books on war, the more they are a bad, when you see what writings Mr. David Jackson and Mr. Julian Whybra, what difference with the rest ...

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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 9:37 pm

Pascal MAHE wrote:
Hello Frederic

Yes it seems like many other books about this war, must have time to spare to read this book, it's troubleshooting, with the conflicts which have'm writing a lot ...

There is more books on war, the more they are a bad, when you see what writings Mr. David Jackson and Mr. Julian Whybra, what difference with the rest ...

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Bonsoir Pascal,
Others authors are also interesting:
For example:
- zulu perspective: John Laband...
-NNC subject: Paul Thompson and Keith Smith (thesis)...
-Rorke's Drift subject: Lee Stevenson...
I enjoy the work of Ian Knight (not the osprey books).
As you, the Best for me is Julian WHYBRA (a very meticulous researcher and historian).
I learn every day on this forum with him.
But i have a deep deception with him: he had not written a book on the battle of Isandhlwana.
It's a crime!!!!Very Happy 
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Bonjour Frederic

This will be one day, but it is seen as meticulous, it will 10 years, all ways impossible to do better than Mr David Jackson on isandhwana for now...

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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 7:58 am

Frederic
'Select Documents a Zulu war source book' by Keith Smith is technically probably the most important book you will ever own.
Very difficult to get hold of but if you do it will sit next to you all the time and become the first book you turn to.

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'Select Documents a Zulu war source book' by Keith Smith is technically probably the most important book you will ever own.
Very difficult to get hold of but if you do it will sit next to you all the time and become the first book you turn to.

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Bonjour Springbok,
 
Thanks for this precious information.
I know this book, but I don't have a copy.
It is not the "same" book of Harold E. Raugh ("anglo-zulu war 1879: a selected bibliography")?
On the same subject i have found on the web an useful ("free") link:
"The AZW, a source guide and reference bibliography" by the author and member of the Rorke's Drift forum Chris Gosling (it's a chronological bibliography of the zulu war between 1878 and 2009 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
 
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I.E: Congretulation for your "last work".
But i have actually a problem: as Martin Cooper, i don't have I phone and I pad...
Perhaps, i will purchase a tablet ("android") / I enjoy "your comments" on this forum.
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Frederic

We must think of anyone who starts to take an interest in the Zulu war of 1879, I advised him only the books of Mr David Jackson and Mr Julian Whybra ...

So it goes right to the point without wasting time and money ,the mass of books without interest writings of some wars is amazing,this is the case for the Zulu War ......Salute 

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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 10:09 am

Frederic
I know Chris Gossling's site. Very informative in terms of what museums etc, Keith Smiths book is vastly different. It doesn't list the sources, it gives them in fine detail. Statements, testimony etc.
If you can get it then do so you will not be disappointed, I searched for three years to get a copy.

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Hi Ymob
I sent you a pm .
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PostSubject: Re: The book of Toby Giese   The book of Toby Giese EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 11:56 am

springbok9 wrote:
Frederic
I know Chris Gossling's site. Very informative in terms of what museums etc, Keith Smiths book is vastly different. It doesn't list the sources, it gives them in fine detail. Statements, testimony etc.
If you can get it then do so you will not be disappointed, I searched for three years to get a copy.

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Bonjour 90th and Springbok,

Many thanks for the information.
Bien à vous.

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