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PostSubject: Army field manuals .   Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:54 pm

Hi all

To the best of my knowledge There Were No army field manuals printed up to the late 1880s - there May Have Been isolated examples Prior to this time but I do not know of any. Can you tell me if they are any reproductions for sale ?

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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:14 pm

Still some thing that would be interesting and that does not exist ???
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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:31 pm

Pascal MAHE wrote:
Still some thing that would be interesting and that does not exist ???

Well that answers that.??? End of discussion.scratch 
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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:08 pm

MonsieurChard1879

This is not a discussion, but a request for help to find one!

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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:32 pm

PTR,

Yes they existed in the British Army, I've got three myself.

However, before you ask at the present time I have no means of scanning them.

Take a look on EBay there were at least two of them on there last week.

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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:17 pm

Mr.kwajimu1879

I am angry with my ebay since they sending me messages that I put my ad sales at home, not because I never go back on my decision, normal for a Breton.

Now if you give me a title, publisher, author name ect ...

Several vendors of books, British or American, will be happy to make me happy.

But be careful you see what I can find?

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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:09 pm

PTR,

Look at Abebooks.co.uk

There's a field exercise book from 1874 listed at the following link.
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Type in C.F. Clery as an author as well - I know you like him!

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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:34 pm

Merci Monsieur

CF Clery Question  - you know I like him Question but I do not know? Is that you Question 

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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:55 pm

PTR,

Major C. F. Clery, on half-pay from 32nd Light Infantry, Staff Officer No. 3 Column.  Formerly Professor of Tactics Royal Military College.

CF Clery wrote:
Major Clery states: I am Senior Staff Officer to the 3rd Column, commanded by Colonel Glyn, C.B., operating against the Zulus. The General commanding accompanied this Column from the time it crossed the border into Zululand.
   On the 20th January, 1879, at the Camp, Isandlwana, Zululand, the Lieutenant-General commanding gave orders to Commandant Lonsdale and Major Dartnell to go out the following morning in a certain direction from the camp with their men, i.e., the Native Contingent, and the Police, and Volunteers, part of the 3rd Column. On the evening of the following day (the 21st) a message arrived from Major Dartnell that the enemy was in considerable force in his neighbourhood, and that he and Commandant Lonsdale would bivouac out that night. About 1.30 A.M., on the 22nd, a messenger brought me a note from Major Dartnell, to say that the enemy was in greater numbers than when he last reported, and that he did not think it prudent to attack them unless reinforced by two or three companies of the 24th Regiment. I took this note to Colonel Glyn, C.B., at once, he ordered me to take it on to the General. The General ordered the 2nd Battalion 24th Regiment, the Mounted Infantry, and four guns, to be under arms at once to march. This force marched out from camp as soon as there was light enough to see the road. The Natal Pioneers accompanied this column to clear the road. The General first ordered me to write to Colonel Durnford, at Rorke's Drift, to bring his force to strengthen the camp, but almost immediately afterwards he told Colonel Crealock that he (Colonel Crealock) was to write to Colonel Durnford these instructions, and not I. Before leaving the camp, I sent written instructions to Colonel Pulleine, 24th Regiment, to the following effect:—" You will be in command of the camp during the absence of Colonel Glyn; draw in (I speak- from memory) your camp, or your line of defence"—I am not certain which-"while the force is out: also draw in the line of your infantry outposts accordingly; but keep your cavalry vedettes still far advanced." I told him to have a wagon ready loaded with ammunition ready to follow the force going out at a moment's notice, if required. I went to Colonel Pulleine's tent just before leaving camp to ascertain that he had got these instructions, and I again repeated them verbally to him. To the best of my memory, I mentioned in the written instructions to Colonel Pulleine that Colonel Durnford had been written to to bring up his force to strengthen the camp. I saw the column out of camp and accompanied it.

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PostSubject: Re: Army field manuals .   Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:54 am

Bonjour Monsieur

Ah you talk about this Clery there! You spoke about it as a contemporary!

You know I like him? I do not see why I will consider this officer?

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