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PostSubject: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 11:03 pm

Hi All.
A Thesis Un-Published. Fortuyn-Drooglever,
Robin William. University of South Africa Oct 1982.

I would be very grateful if any of you can inform me
about this. cheers xhosa2000
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PostSubject: Durnford , A Figure Of Controversy   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 7:01 am

Hi xhosa.
Dont remember ever hearing of it . You need to study mo 
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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 10:54 am

Hiya Gary, iv'e bought it. it wont
arrive till next week.what it says..

Fortuyn-Droolever, Robin William:
A figure of controversy: Colonel
Anthony Durnford in Natal& Zulu
land 1883-1879.un-published thesis,
University of South Africa, oct 1982.
Large 4to (32x24 cms) 5+298 pages
of single sided typed manuscript,maps,
portraits:Durnfords checkered military
career before and during the Anglo Zulu
War. " He was better suited to a social
& Humanitarian career rather then the
Military career into which family trad-
ition had forced him". strongly bound
by Buckram.signed by the author.

Thats all i know. no further intelligence.
thought some one could give me the
heads up on this.
cheers xhosa

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Hi Les .
Interesting , I'll send you a pm .
Cheers 90th. Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 11:24 am

Hi Les
Let me know when you get, You know. what Im looking for on the maps.

cheers
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[quote="xhosa2000"]Hiya Gary, iv'e bought it. it wont
arrive till next week.what it says..

Fortuyn-Droolever, Robin William:
A figure of controversy: Colonel
Anthony Durnford in Natal& Zulu
land 1883-1879.un-published thesis,


Hi all,

Il think this thesis is the genesis of DROOLEVER's book, "the road to Isandhlwana".
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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 1:19 pm

90th,springbok,frederic,
thank you for that.Gary
ive answered your pm,
Frank.hiya mate i will
pm you a bit later,need
more time to think.and
frederic thank you i had
hoped that might be the
case, but we shall see.
cheers Les xhosa
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xhosa2000 wrote:
frederic i had
hoped that might be the
case, but we shall see.
      cheers Les xhosa
 
Hi Xhosa,
 
"Wait and see"...
I am curious to know the answer.
 
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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 5:02 pm

Hi Frederic, i'm holding fire on the
excitement till i see what it really
is.the guy got back to me saying
it was a heavy book..and upped
the shipping.lol. cheers mate.
xhosa
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xhosa2000 wrote:
Hi Frederic, i'm holding fire on the
excitement till i see what it really
is.the guy got back to me saying
it was a heavy book..and upped
the shipping.lol. cheers mate.
                          xhosa
Bonsoir Xhosa,
A "hammer price"!!
I hope for YOU that this thesis Will be a "treasure"!
Good luck  mon ami!
Have YOU got KEith Smith's thesis on the NNC's commandship (I have forgotten the title)
Cheers
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Gent's. Looking forward to your reviews.
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PostSubject: Durnford. A figure of controversy   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 12:39 am

Hi Les.

I have the book that Frederic mentions 'The Road to iSandlwana' by Droogleever. It is subtitled, 'Colonel Anthony Durnford in Natal and Zululand'. My copy of the book is published by Greenhill books, it is a hardback, the front cover illustration on the dust jacket is the battle of iSandlwana showing what looks like a 'Last Stand' (I think it is called 'At Bay'), it is from 'The Graphic' (March 15th 1879). I have looked at the contents and cannot find nothing that mentions anything about 'A Thesis', or a 'figure of controversy', so the book you mention may be a different book or a renaming of 'The Road to iSandlwana' book. Like Frederic, I am also curious about this book.

Hope this helps, and good luck with the book.

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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 1:04 am

frederic,ctsg,Mr M Cooper.thank you
for your interest,when i know, i
will share what,if anything it is.
with you gladly.

Coll,if any way you see this..i would
want to share with you before anybody.
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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 12:26 pm

Hi All

"A Figure of Controversy: Colonel Anthony Durnford in Natal and Zululand, 1873-1879" by Robin William Fortuyn-Droogleever. Submitted by him as part of the requirement for the degree of D.Litt, in October 1982. I do not believe it has ever been published separately.

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Hiya Bill, great job your doing..
Are you saying it could be a one off.
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Droogleever, R. W. F. (1992) - The road to Isandhlwana.Col Anthony Durnford in Natal and Zululand 1873-1879. Pub by Presidio. ISBN 1-85367-118-5. This is a handy hard-covered modern account of Durnford's mostly calamitous experiences in Natal, the first half (130pp) of which is of interest to the 'Berg. Repackaged from his Doctoral dissertation,A small review!
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Can anyone open link. Click on link below

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When the page opens click on first website concerning Durnford.
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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 9:35 am

Hi all

I suspect there were only a few copies ever produced of Drooglever's thesis - the Brecon Museum was kindly donated one copy by the author. Elements of it were subsequently used in the book "Road to Isandlwana".

Anyone who is particularly interested in the thesis - come to Brecon and we'll let you read it.

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Hi thanks for your fulsome response.
cheers xhosa
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Hi all, The Library at Shermershill..re Huw Jones.
context please.knowledge required.thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Durnford. A Figure of Controversy.   Durnford. A Figure of Controversy. EmptyTue Sep 17, 2013 12:51 am

bill cainan wrote:
Hi All

"A Figure of Controversy: Colonel Anthony Durnford in Natal and Zululand, 1873-1879" by Robin William Fortuyn-Droogleever.  Submitted by him as part of the requirement for the degree of D.Litt, in October 1982.  I do not believe it has ever been published separately.

Bill

Bill,how about sending some photocopies out, for a cost of course?
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Impi you should pay a visit! Bill could even show the RD Roll with Pte Jenkins on!!! and his Bible!!
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