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 Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young

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PostSubject: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:08 pm

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Fantasic artical agree 

John Young wrote:
"At 3 a.m., Lieutenant Horace Lockwood Smith-Dorrien, of the 95th (Derbyshire) Regiment of Foot, a special service officer detailed to transport duties, was ordered to return to Rorke's Drift.  He carried orders for Durnford, ordering him to the camp at Isandlwana with the forces at his disposal."
Can we really read anything into this, even if it's between the lines. Or is it as clear as day. Simply move to the camp.

I may have missed it, but I didn't see any mention of his Drinking and Gambling habits.
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:29 pm

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However close to where he died is the memorial to the Natal Carbineers who perished that day, and if I may misquote it - neither praise nor blame add to his epitaph. ©John Young 2013, with minor revisions and amendments to previously published text.
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Thanks for posting this, but I don't understand the last line...specifically the use of the word "misquote." I'm sure I ought to know the significance, but I don't.
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:03 pm

Impi,

The gambling is there, as to his drinking is there a verified source for that?

6pdr,

The Natal Carbineers' memorial reads thus:

Not Theirs To Save The Day
But Where They Stood,
Falling To Dye The Earth
With Brave Men's Blood
For England's Sake And Duty
-Be Their Name Sacred
Among Us-
Neither
Praise Nor Blame
Add To Their Epitaph--
But Let It Be Simple As That Which
Marked Thermopylae.
Tell It In England Those
That Pass Us By,
Here, Faithful To Their Charge,
Her Soldiers Lie.


As you can see 'Their' becomes his.

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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:04 pm

You can all blame Les for this as he wanted to see it in full.


Cheers JY. just finished printing it.will
go nicely with the 'other's '..More detail
than Droolever! im sure members will agree
that was required information. xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:36 pm

Gambling and drinking normally go hand in hand...

Still money, men's lives, doesn't matter to a gambler
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:54 pm

impi wrote:
Gambling and drinking normally go hand in hand...

Still money, men's lives, doesn't matter to a gambler
Ah, I see. And where did you get your degree in psychology?
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:07 pm

No No No . the bigger picture please
gentlemen. ' not the squabbling thing '.
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:43 pm

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Mate you don't need a degree...
Sorry to hear it SAS1, but my point is not that you aren't entitled to your opinion based on personal circumstances.  He was making sweeping generalizations without any reference to a statistical basis, or a qualification that makes me think he would know the actual correlation. I have my own grudges parent-wise, but that does not make me a social psychologist.  My guess is that had Young considered drink and gambling relevant to his profile, he would have mentioned them as he does Durnford's depressions.  I found the profile fair and balanced.  - 6pdr
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:49 pm

John Young only missed the Drinking off. So let's keep the gambling. But i do agree with Impi. Drink and Gambeling, likes Egg's and Bacon. Reading between the lines and in hindsight that is!
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:02 pm

yeah JY thats always been a favourite
and his tash is getting there..

Note all, im from a poor working class backround,
we had very little as kid's. just to put on record,
i loved both deceased parents very much,i miss
them also very much. cheers xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:04 pm

xhosa,

(apropos of nothing...) Who is that in your profile picture, btw? - 6pd
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:01 pm

hiya mate, have not the ist clue,entitled,
an Induna, but i took a long time choosing
my avatar, xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:07 pm

sorry meant to say we are
both ' grey beards '.Sad .
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:18 am

xhosa2000 wrote:
sorry meant to say we are
both ' grey beards '.Sad .
Brilliant choice...befitting an eminence grise.

I must confess however I was hoping you were going to say Mnyamana, Ntshingwayo or (especially) Mkhosana.
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:24 am

6pdr,hiya. i wish, but a noble (24th) countenance:Salute: .
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:06 pm

hey 6pdr,have you look
left recently?. xhosa
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PostSubject: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879   Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:07 pm

soz. ed
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:20 am

hiya 6pdr,did you look left? xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:32 am

xhosa2000 wrote:
hiya 6pdr,did you look left? xhosa
Now I have...
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PostSubject: Re: Comments on Colonel Anthony William Durnford, Royal Engineers, 1830-1879 Artical by John Young   Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:31 am

hiya 6pdr:Salute: Salute 
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