WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu Dawn:Lt. Col. Pulleine: His Lordship is of the cetain opinion that it's far too difficult an approach to be chosen by the Zulu command.Col. Durnford: Yes, well... difficulty never deterred a Zulu commander.
 
HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  GalleryGallery  PublicationsPublications  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
Colonel R.T. Glyn, 1/24th Regt. kwaSokhexe, Ulundi
[Mac and Shad](Isandula Collection)
Secrets Of The Dead The Mystery Of Zulu Dawn
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Top posters
90th
 
littlehand
 
Frank Allewell
 
ADMIN
 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
 
John
 
Mr M. Cooper
 
1879graves
 
impi
 
rusteze
 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Top posting users this month
Drummer Boy 14
 
Frank Allewell
 
rusteze
 
90th
 
ADMIN
 
SRB1965
 
Julian Whybra
 
ymob
 
1879graves
 
xhosa2000
 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable.5
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 4
The ammunition question
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.

Share | 
 

 White foreign service helmet

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
waterloo50

avatar

Posts : 600
Join date : 2013-09-18
Location : West Country

PostSubject: White foreign service helmet   Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:03 pm

I am currently building a 1:72 diorama of isandlwana. I have a quick question about the white service hemets used by the British troops. What colour should I use, I read somewhere that the helmets were dulled with dyes improvised from tea, coffee or boiled bark. any advice would be great. Many thanks.
Back to top Go down
littlehand

avatar

Posts : 7050
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 49
Location : Down South.

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:16 pm

waterloo50 wrote:
I am currently building a 1:72 diorama of isandlwana. I have a quick question about the white service hemets used by the British troops. What colour should I use, I read somewhere that the helmets were dulled with dyes improvised from tea, coffee or boiled bark. any advice would be great. Many thanks.
Hi Waterloo, yes that's correct, they used to dull the helmet's  in the fashion you mentioned.
Back to top Go down
6pdr

avatar

Posts : 1086
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : NYC

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:34 pm

littlehand wrote:
Hi Waterloo, yes that's correct, they used to dull the helmet's  in the fashion you mentioned.
They took the badges off too...so nothing was shiny.
Back to top Go down
impi

avatar

Posts : 2306
Join date : 2010-07-02
Age : 37

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:41 pm

But kept their redcoats on. Did they stain their webbing?
Back to top Go down
6pdr

avatar

Posts : 1086
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : NYC

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:35 pm

impi wrote:
But kept their redcoats on. Did they stain their webbing?
That's logical but I'm not sure about that. I have read this was the last campaign that the British Army went in to a major fight before the switch to khaki...and also the last time the regiment carried its battle standards (the company colours) with it, although I've never been clear whether other regiments still brought theirs on campaign.
Back to top Go down
24th

avatar

Posts : 1837
Join date : 2009-03-25

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:47 pm

The Boer war saw the change in uniform colour.
Back to top Go down
90th

avatar

Posts : 9341
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 61
Location : Melbourne, Australia

PostSubject: White Foreign Service Helmet    Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:10 pm

I'm not so sure about that 24th , they were wearing Khaki in Afghanistan 79-80 ! , and fairly certain in India as well at that time . Happy to be corrected .
90th
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:47 pm

Laings Nek Very Happy 
Back to top Go down
littlehand

avatar

Posts : 7050
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 49
Location : Down South.

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:26 pm

The last time a scarlet tunic was worn, was at the Battle of Gennis in the Sudan on 30 December 1885.
Back to top Go down
John Young

avatar

Posts : 1290
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 61
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:28 pm

Impi,

impi wrote:
Did they stain their webbing?
They would have been far ahead of their time if they had worn webbing in 1879!  The first issue of equipment made from webbing was 1908 Pattern.

90th,

Following up on your answer to 24th; a number of units wore khaki in the Indian Mutiny of 1857, it was certainly commonplace during the 2nd Afghan War.

6pdr.

6pdr wrote:
...the last time the regiment carried its battle standards (the company colours) with it, although I've never been clear whether other regiments still brought theirs on campaign.
I hope you meant Regimental Colours rather than company colours?  As Xhosa has pointed out at Laing's Nek on 28th January 1881 the 58th (Rutlandshire) Regiment carried their Colours into action against the Boers.  The South Staff's had their Colours with them in 1882 during the occupation of  a still hostile Alexandria.

JY

Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:31 pm

Further..

Lieut Baillie, who carried..
the Regimental colours was mortally
wounded. Peel who carried the Queens
colour, turned to assist him and, on
being told, " never mind me, save the
colours," took both colours but fell in-
to a hole. a sergeant came to his rescue
and carried both colours for some distance
before, Lieut Peel came up and regained
them.this was the last time the colours
were carried by a British Regiment. as
JY says..agree 

Transvaal war of independence 1880-81
G.R.Duxbury.
                               cheers xhosa
Back to top Go down
littlehand

avatar

Posts : 7050
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 49
Location : Down South.

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:33 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
John Young

avatar

Posts : 1290
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 61
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:41 pm

Littlehand,

Littlehand wrote:
The last time a scarlet tunic was worn, was at the Battle of Gennis in the Sudan on 30 December 1885.
Evidence has revealed that at the Battle of Hlophekhulu, 2nd July 1888, that troops from the following units fought in scarlet: the 6th (Inniskilling) Dragoons; 1st Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers & 1st Battalion North Staffordshire Regiment.

Hlophekhulu is also remembered for another reason, as it was last time that a senior member of the Zulu Royal House, Prince Shingana kaMpande fought against the British.

JY
Back to top Go down
littlehand

avatar

Posts : 7050
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 49
Location : Down South.

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:46 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:07 am

littlehand,JY. the colour party,
Roy is a given,he always looks
the same, but who fourth left?
i'm reluctantly off to bed, just
into the second day of a
massive head cold, so i'm not
inclined to search at the mo..
i'm currently ' washing my
spears in snot '. No  No 
xhosa
Back to top Go down
John Young

avatar

Posts : 1290
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 61
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:33 pm

Les,

It is Sergeant 25th Brigade/56 Edward Wilson, 1st Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment.

JY
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:26 pm

thanks JY. xhosa
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: White foreign service helmet   

Back to top Go down
 
White foreign service helmet
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: