WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Dawn Film. Chard: The army doesn’t like more than one disaster in a day.Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.
 
HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  GalleryGallery  PublicationsPublications  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Help identifying unit South Africa Medal Dr A Hayter N.C.R.A
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyToday at 1:29 am by SAAFCAPT

» Royal Marines of the Naval Brigade for the Zulu War
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyYesterday at 9:53 pm by ADMIN

» Any 2nd Printing of Frontier Light Horse in the Anglo Zulu War of 1879 Planned?
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Jun 25, 2019 6:28 pm by scotrohrer2000

» GPS Coordinates for Zululand Forts or II Division/Flying Column camps?
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Jun 25, 2019 6:26 pm by scotrohrer2000

» EDMUND FOWLER VC
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyFri Jun 21, 2019 8:02 pm by 1879graves

» Secrets of the National Archives
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyThu Jun 20, 2019 10:06 am by rusteze

» Rededication to Lance Sergeant James Taylor. 16tj June 2019
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyThu Jun 20, 2019 2:49 am by 90th

» Col. F.V. NORTHEY
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyWed Jun 19, 2019 11:51 pm by ADMIN

» Original Blue Books
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyWed Jun 19, 2019 11:11 am by rusteze

» Hitch had no luck with VC's
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Jun 18, 2019 7:45 pm by 1879graves

» Gunner William George Taylor
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Jun 18, 2019 10:08 am by Julian Whybra

» Francis S Alcock
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 8:45 pm by 1879graves

» Rev-Thomas Foran
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 6:42 pm by 1879graves

» Gras Fusil 1874
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 5:11 pm by rusteze

» The Pigeon Pie Incident
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 1:42 pm by Petty Officer Tom

Brev. Lt-Col. R.H. Buller, VC, Staff: 2/60th KRRC-Zungwini,Hlobane, Khambula, Ulundi
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BullerBrev.[Mac and Shad] (Isandula Collection)
Anglo-Zulu war: Walking the battlefield of Kambula
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Top posters
90th
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
littlehand
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
ADMIN
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
1879graves
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
rusteze
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
John
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
impi
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Top posting users this month
1879graves
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
ADMIN
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
rusteze
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
90th
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
John Young
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
scotrohrer2000
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Petty Officer Tom
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
aussie inkosi
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_leftThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard BarThe Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 3
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.

Share
 

 The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard

Go down 
AuthorMessage
littlehand

littlehand

Posts : 7072
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 50
Location : Down South.

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptySun Nov 03, 2013 11:19 pm

https://archive.org/stream/truestorybook00langrich#page/132/mode/1up/search/RORKE'S+DRIFT

The true story Pages 132-152.

The way I read this Haggard, attributes the disaster to Durnford. I have read quite a few books by Haggard, but this is the first book where he, points the finger.
Back to top Go down
barry

barry

Posts : 910
Join date : 2011-10-21
Location : Algoa Bay

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Nov 04, 2013 6:12 pm

Hi LH,

Thanks for that interesting link posted.
In considering what Haggard had to say about Isandlwana one should exercise utter circumspection and remember three things;

1) he was not a military man
2) he was a good fictional "story" writer.
3) at the time he was in the employ of the Natal Colonial Govt as an RM, so quite naturally had to "toe the line",
as many thers did and so perpetuate the cover -up.

regards,

barry


Last edited by barry on Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:48 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
Chard1879

Chard1879

Posts : 1261
Join date : 2010-04-12

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Nov 04, 2013 6:22 pm

He also had some goods friends who were killed.
Back to top Go down
John

John

Posts : 2555
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 56
Location : UK

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Nov 04, 2013 6:36 pm

Was the movement of men to the ridge, the first big mistake.
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Nov 04, 2013 6:37 pm

out of memory, re, the annexation
of the Transvaal, did he not hoist
the flag when the feint heart lost
his bottle, i would suggest that was
a military gesture. Neutral 

iv'e just dug out andrew langs  the
true story book, aimed at children,
i would not endorse its accuracy..
but some very nice illustrations.
                            cheers xhosa
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Nov 04, 2013 7:07 pm

i nearly posted an image, Shocked
Back to top Go down
John

John

Posts : 2555
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 56
Location : UK

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Nov 04, 2013 7:22 pm

Of what?
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyMon Nov 04, 2013 9:51 pm

sorry john, just an image of the
front cover ist ed. Salute 
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell

Posts : 7213
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 72
Location : Cape Town South Africa

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 5:47 am

I would agree with Barry.
Also read his :'Diary of an African Journey" edited by Stephen Coan. There's a few imponderables in there as well.

Cheers.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 9963
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 63
Location : Melbourne, Australia

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift by Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 8:51 am

Hi Springy .

It's an interesting book , it's possibly the only Non fiction book that he wrote , he may have wrote another , happy to be corrected ? .
90th
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 1880
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 63
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 6:18 pm

Barry,

Can I pick you up on some of your points, if you don't mind?

Barry wrote:
In considering what Haggard had to say about Isandlwana one should exercise utter circumspection and remember three things;

1) he was not a military man
2) he was a good fictional "story" writer.
3) at the time he was in the employ of the Natal Colonial Govt as an RM, so quite naturally had to "toe the line",
as many thers did and so perpetuate the cover -up.
The True Story Book which was edited by Andrew Lang was first published in 1893, Henry Rider Haggard had left South Africa in 1882 and returned to England, eleven years prior to the publication of the book to which he contributed to.

1, He might not have been a regular soldier, but in 1878-9 he was serving as an officer in Pretoria Horse, which mustered at the same time as Weatherley's Border Horse/Lancers.  Fate intervened and it was thought prudent for the Pretoria Horse to remain in the Transvaal rather than accompany Weatherley's men into Zululand.

2, His first published book was a work of fact Cetywayo and His White Neighbours, first published in 1882.  Three years prior to the publication of King Solomon's Mines in 1885.

3, He was not technically in the employ of the Natal Government, in 1875 his father, Sir William Meybohm Rider Haggard obtained an unpaid position for him as an assistant to the Private Secretary of Sir Henry Bulwer, Lieutenant-Governor of Natal.  In 1876 he joined the staff of Theophilus Shepstone whilst he was plotting the confederating of the Republic of the Transvaal.  In April 1877 it was Haggard who raised the Union Flag in Pretoria when Shepstone annexed the country.  The following year 1878 he was appointed as Registrar of the High Court of Transvaal, that might been what you are confusing 'Resident Magistrate' position with.

Haggard actually weaved iSandlwana into his novel Finished published in 1917, with his most famous character Allan Quatermain taking part in the battle.  He even overhears Pulleine tell Durnford that his orders ...were to defend the camp...  There is even a description of Durnford's death.

Regards,

John
Back to top Go down
Saul David 1879



Posts : 526
Join date : 2009-02-28

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 9:00 pm

agree
Back to top Go down
impi

impi

Posts : 2308
Join date : 2010-07-02
Age : 39

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 9:15 pm

As we taking about Rider Haggard, I'm taking the liberty of posting this again. Film footage of the man himself. With a walking stick given to him a Ceteswayo's coronation. Life in England seemed so by better  then. The type of life we all long for today. The house the gardens and Rider Haggard. 

http://bps.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00036000/00036588.mp4.m3u8

Enjoy.
Back to top Go down
6pdr

6pdr

Posts : 1086
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : NYC

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 11:00 pm

John Young wrote:
2, His first published book was a work of fact Cetywayo and His White Neighbours, first published in 1882.  Three years prior to the publication of King Solomon's Mines in 1885.
I think most of you would much rather read the latter than the former.  But, if you want to learn the limitations of the man, who expounds throughout very forcefully, give it a read.  With the admittedly entirely unfair advantage of 20-20 hindsight, I did not walk away with the impression he was particularly insightful. Fiction was his strength. I do think he and Maori could have had some very interesting debates and discussions.  There were men of their time.  But I think John Dunn and Bishop Colenso or even (in a different way,) Kipling could have let the air out of them, given an opportunity.
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 11:25 pm

6pdr, the former! the AmaZulu and
AZW. haunt my dreams. i have had
passion in my life. thank god.. but
that south eastern portion of the
' dark continent ' has a unrelenting
grip on my consciousness. stay well
every body. cheers xhosa
Back to top Go down
6pdr

6pdr

Posts : 1086
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : NYC

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 11:32 pm

xhosa2000 wrote:
6pdr, the former! the AmaZulu and
AZW. haunt my dreams. i have had
passion in my life. thank god.. but
that south eastern portion of the
' dark continent ' has a unrelenting
grip on my consciousness. stay well
every body.          cheers xhosa
I don't doubt it Xhosa, but you are not typical. Also, the best of Alan Quartermain is set in East Africa...sort of. Anyway, people can make up their minds themselves by reading (for free) here if they like:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/8667/8667-h/8667-h.htm
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 1880
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 63
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 11:37 pm

6pdr wrote:
Alan Quartermain
I take you mean Allan Quatermain?

John Y.
Back to top Go down
6pdr

6pdr

Posts : 1086
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : NYC

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 11:42 pm

John Young wrote:
6pdr wrote:
Alan Quartermain
I take you mean Allan Quatermain?
What's a spare "L" or "R" between friends?
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 1880
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 63
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 11:46 pm

6pdr,

Just making sure you are awake on the other side of the pond!

Regards,

JY
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 11:59 pm

6pdr Very Happy  your interesting, for a colonial.
Hrrumph. goodnight. Salute  xhosa
Back to top Go down
Dave

Dave

Posts : 1606
Join date : 2009-09-21

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyWed Nov 06, 2013 12:11 am

Haggard was one of the great's!!!!! Impi, thanks for the footage. Know what you mean. agree 
Back to top Go down
barry

barry

Posts : 910
Join date : 2011-10-21
Location : Algoa Bay

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyWed Nov 06, 2013 5:29 am

Hi John,
Good to hear from you and thanks for responding on the Haggard question.
However, to my knowledge Haggard served for a time as RM in Hlabisa , N.Zululand, and then too, I think, for a while in Newcastle, N. Natal. I write this from memory so will now go back to the records to check my sources.
There are some who say that he based some parts of his stories on the many court cases that he dealt with?.
Will revert shortly.

regards

barry
Back to top Go down
6pdr

6pdr

Posts : 1086
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : NYC

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyWed Nov 06, 2013 12:50 pm

Dave wrote:
Haggard was one of the great's!!!!! Impi, thanks for the footage. Know what you mean. agree 
If you enjoy him, may I also suggest Bertram Mitford and Henty? There were Haggard's contemporaries, more or less, and wrote similar fare.
Back to top Go down
6pdr

6pdr

Posts : 1086
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : NYC

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyWed Nov 06, 2013 12:57 pm

xhosa2000 wrote:
6pdr Very Happy  your interesting, for a colonial.
Hrrumph. goodnight. Salute  xhosa
Well thank-you for the back handed compliment, Xhosa! Surprised

Now I almost feel...accepted on this board. Sad  Joker 

I enjoy tilting a lance with you too!
Back to top Go down
Mr M. Cooper

Mr M. Cooper

Posts : 2522
Join date : 2011-09-29
Location : Lancashire, England.

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyThu Nov 07, 2013 6:09 pm

The problem with books like this is that they purport to be giving the 'truth' or the 'facts' to the reader, however, with today's better information and a lot better researchers, the claims made of old, ie; 'the truth about' or 'the facts about' can mostly be discredited.

It is very unfortunate that a number of the earlier so called 'researchers' and 'authors' just went with the flow of the 'rigged' COE, and assumed that what they had heard or read was the truth. They therefor set the ball rolling and others followed them, and of course Col Durnford gets the 'mucky end of the stick' and is blamed time after time by these earlier so called researchers and authors. And so the myth set in motion by LC and his cronies at the rigged COE that Durnford was to blame carries on for years and becomes the norm, and is accepted by those wanting a scapegoat.

It is a good job that others could see through this cover up and blame game, and that we now have some decent researchers and authors who can put things right, however, there will always be those who will continue to swallow the web of lies and deceit given at the rigged COE and continue to blame Col Durnford.
Back to top Go down
impi

impi

Posts : 2308
Join date : 2010-07-02
Age : 39

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyThu Nov 07, 2013 6:13 pm

Let those without sin, cast the first stone.
Back to top Go down
Mr M. Cooper

Mr M. Cooper

Posts : 2522
Join date : 2011-09-29
Location : Lancashire, England.

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyThu Nov 07, 2013 6:14 pm

scratch 
Back to top Go down
24th

24th

Posts : 1845
Join date : 2009-03-25

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyThu Nov 07, 2013 7:55 pm

Martin wrote:
Col Durnford gets the 'mucky end of the stick' and is blamed time after time by these earlier so called researchers and authors.
Shocked 
Back to top Go down
Mr M. Cooper

Mr M. Cooper

Posts : 2522
Join date : 2011-09-29
Location : Lancashire, England.

The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard EmptyFri Nov 08, 2013 12:38 am

Why so shocked 24th?

With what we know now, anyone can see that the COE was conspired to get LC off the hook and put the blame elsewhere, ie; Col Durnford. It therefor follows that many gullible folk would simply go along with the flow and believe all the tripe that was dished out regarding Col Durnford being the one to point the finger at, and a lot of authors just accepted all this guff without doing some proper research, and therefor wrote this sort of stuff in their books and articles at the time, purporting it to be the 'true story'. However, there were others who could see through this web of lies and deceit (The Duke of Cambridge being one of them). Read Lock and Quantrill, Zulu Victory, Part Three, The Cover-up, p233.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard   The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard Empty

Back to top Go down
 
The Tale Of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift. By Rider Haggard
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: ZULU WAR PUBLICATIONS & REVIEWS-
Jump to: