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PostSubject: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:07 pm

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2nd from left, front row, is Capt Baynes, 75th regiment who died in the Egyptian campaign of 1882 of dysentery. He also served in the Zulu War of 1879. The 75th was joined to the Gordon highlanders.

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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:27 am

Correct source should be attributed to the John Young Collection. See the Victoria Wars Forum article on Baynes and his uniform.

There two other Zulu War officers in the group: Porter R.E. standing at rear on the right & James Scots Greys third from the left rear row.


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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:14 am

Thanks John although it wasn't found on the Victorian War forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:35 am

LH,

Follow the link that appears on Pinit and you'll find it goes to http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7527&start=0

What is interesting with Pinit is the link to the Gordon Highlanders if you follow that to
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/465770786432070246/

The photograph is incorrectly listed as '75th Regiment China circa 1874' the date is right the location is totally wrong as that is Fort Napier in Natal.

The officer back left leaning against the post is Captain Edward "Lucky" Essex, the iSandlwana survivor.

Then go it http://www.pinterest.com/pin/465770786432070244/ and this one takes the biscuit for me! Essex is seated third from the left again the location is wrongly stated as China, rather than Natal 1872. Look behind Essex to the man with his arms folded on the steps, that is Anthony William Durnford, as a Major with both arms functioning!

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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:17 pm

Thanks John, attribute added accordingly.
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:21 pm

24th,

Very good what is the source of the engraving?

If it is the VWF, please attribute it.

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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:32 pm

"Denman Lambert Baynes
Born: 1857
Died: 1882
Ensign:        20 July 1870
Lieutenant: 28 October 1871
Captain:      18 December 1880
Hart’s Army list 1878: Baynes listed as “Special service Cape of Good Hope”.
November 1878: Baynes proceeded to Natal on transport service with a fellow officer of the 75th Captain Edward Essex, who was appointed Transport Officer to Colonel Glyn’s (24th) Column, and were employed during the war on the lines of communication and at base.1  Captain Essex fought in, and survived, the slaughter at Isandlwana.
 1880-81: Attended Staff College
1881: The Amalgamation of the 75th &  92nd Regiments to form the Gordon Highlanders.
From the London Gazette 19 September 1882: “The Gordon Highlanders, Lieutenant William Baron-Stanton to be Captain, Vice D.L. Baynes, deceased. Dated 26 August

The Gordon Highlanders Memorial, Duthie Park, Aberdeen, bears the following inscription:

“Erected by the Officers, NC Officers and men of the 1st Battalion Gordon Highlanders to the memory of their comrades who were killed or died of wounds or

Disease during the Egyptian Campaign 1882”

Capt.DL Baynes

Leut. AC Pirie

Leut.HG Brooks"

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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:34 pm

"Denman Lambert Baynes
Born: 1857
Died: 1882
Ensign:        20 July 1870
Lieutenant: 28 October 1871
Captain:      18 December 1880
Hart’s Army list 1878: Baynes listed as “Special service Cape of Good Hope”.
November 1878: Baynes proceeded to Natal on transport service with a fellow officer of the 75th Captain Edward Essex, who was appointed Transport Officer to Colonel Glyn’s (24th) Column, and were employed during the war on the lines of communication and at base.1  Captain Essex fought in, and survived, the slaughter at Isandlwana.
 1880-81: Attended Staff College
1881: The Amalgamation of the 75th &  92nd Regiments to form the Gordon Highlanders.
From the London Gazette 19 September 1882: “The Gordon Highlanders, Lieutenant William Baron-Stanton to be Captain, Vice D.L. Baynes, deceased. Dated 26 August

The Gordon Highlanders Memorial, Duthie Park, Aberdeen, bears the following inscription:

“Erected by the Officers, NC Officers and men of the 1st Battalion Gordon Highlanders to the memory of their comrades who were killed or died of wounds or

Disease during the Egyptian Campaign 1882”

Capt.DL Baynes

Leut. AC Pirie

Leut.HG Brooks"

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PostSubject: Capt Baynes D.L.   Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:47 pm

Listed as a Lt during the AZW in Mack and Shad , awarded Medal with Clasp 1879 .
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:08 am

"TERRIBLE FIRE IN NEWTOWNARDS.
SEVEN PERSONS BURNED TO DEATH.

ON Sunday morning, Newtownards was the scene of a terrible occurrence. Two houses situated in Dobbin's Row, South Street, have been completely destroyed by fire, and a weaver named John M'Knight and six of his children burned to death. Of nine members M'Knight's family only two, Mrs. M'Knight and a young child, remain to shed any light on the sad occurance, which "at one fell swoop" deprived her of her husband and six children. The sentry on duty at the military camp, which is convenient to Dobbin's Row, was the first to notice anything of an unusual nature. At five minutes past two o'clock he heard the noise of windows being smashed up South Street, and, knowing that some of the 75th were out on pass, and thinking that they might be engaged in a row or be blamed for the damage, he reported the matter to the sergeant of the guard. On looking again up the street the sentinel observed dense volumes, of smoke and flame issuing from the first floor windows of a house within a few doors from the south end of the row. The sergeant of the guard then aroused the acting sergeant-major, Colour-Sergeant Hart, who alarmed the detachment, and knocked up the commanding officer, Lieutenant Denman Lambert Baynes, who proceeded with every available man, in all sorts of undress, to the burning premises. Not a. soldier was left in the camp but the sentry at the gate. About two o'clock also a man named Shannon came to the police barracks in High Street and reported that a fire had broken out in Dobbin's Row. In a short time Sub-Inspector T. J. N. Robertson, Head-Constable Daniel Flagherty, and the constabulary force were on the spot. Patrick Mackintosh, Esq., J.P., was also present. The crowd of civilians was much smaller than might have been expected. On the arrival of the police ladders were obtained from Mr. John Hanna's timber yard, and, the soldiers having formed a line from the canal to the burning houses, water was passed along, cans and buckets, having been obtained for this purpose from the inhabitants of the neighbouring houses. Not much good, however, was effected by these means and it was not until the arrival of the Town Commissioners' fire engine, which Sub-Constables Boyce and M'Hugh dragged down from Regent Street the progress of the flames were noticeably arrested. Successful efforts were made to cut the beams which connected the burning mass from the houses on each side. Armed with pioneers' axes, some of the men of the 75th mounted the roof, and, to the imminent danger of their lives, hewed away at the beams till the roof fell in. Lieutenant Baynes behaved in a most gallant manner, and his men, without exception, seemed eager to emulate the action of their generous and courageous leader. Mr. Robt. Davidson, T.C. (captain of the fire brigade); Mr. John Hanna, Mr. J. A. Brown, T.C.; Mr. J. F. Robinson (gas manager for the Consumers' Company), and others, exerted themselves in a praiseworthy manner, and the women were most active in carrying water to fill the tank of the engine; but, on the other hand, many of the inhabitants evinced an apathy and carelessness which was anything but creditable to them. Had the people, however, been aware that there were seven persons in the blazing house, they would doubtless have displayed more energy in extinguishIng the flames; but this fact was not known to them. Mrs. M'Knight, bearing a baby, herself and it much burnt, rushed out whenever the fire was discovered, but no information could be got from her as to who remained behind, so agitated was her mind. In fact, none of those engaged at the fire knew who was in the house, or if there was any person at all, and, as no cries were heard. it probable that M'Knight and his six children were suffocated before the fire reached them, though it is probable that the breaking of glass heard by the sentinel at the camp was an expiring and frantic attempt to get air, which, on being admitted, fanned the pent-up flame and hastened their destruction. When the fire was subdued about three o'clock, a. search was made for the bodies, and seven blackened and charred cinders, some of them not larger than a blackened loaf, were found among the debris. They were at once removed by the police to an outhouse connected with Mr. James Chambers' public-house, a few doors up the street. Mrs. M'Knight, when she ran out with the infant in her arms, was dressed in her everyday clothes, and from this it would appear that she had not gone to bed ; whether her husband was in bed is not yet known, but they were both seen in the street on Saturday night under the influence of drink, and he was observed standing at his own door, to all appearances drunk, at twelve o'clock. The eldest child, a boy, was fifteen years of age, and the youngest three months. A man named Thomas Houston, who occupied half of the same house, which was a large one, and fitted up for two weavers, with workshops, was able to save his own life and those of his family; but looms, clothes, and furniture are entirely destroyed."
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PostSubject: Capt Baynes 75th Regt   Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:14 am

Well found Littlehand , very interesting post .  Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:59 am

Mrs. M'Knight.. (i believe that is Mac Knight )
my great grandfathers name before being
Anglicized after 1900. part of the sept of
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:53 am

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Denman Lambert Baynes (1857-1882) 75th Regiment. Special Service Cape of Good Hope. Anglo Zulu War. Died during the Egypt campaign whilst serving with the Gordon Highlanders.


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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:49 pm

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Now John Young Collection as the auction has concluded.

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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:45 pm

But it wasn't when it was posted. But well done on your purchase.  Rolling Eyes 
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:22 pm

John Young wrote:
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Now John Young Collection as the auction has concluded.

John Y.

How did I guess, that was you bidding on that!!  agree 

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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:28 pm

was that at Abu Klea!.
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:24 pm

i know, i did it again, abu klea 16th-18th
Jan 1885.. dont know why but Fred popped
into my head. soz.
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PostSubject: Re: Capt Baynes 75th Regiment    Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:04 am

littlehand wrote:
John Young wrote:
Littlehand,

Now John Young Collection as the auction has concluded.

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How did I guess, that was you bidding on that!!  agree 

Image adjusted accordingly!!


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