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PostSubject: R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face..   R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face.. EmptyMon Jan 27, 2014 2:24 pm

in my photobucket is a very
familiar image.. can any body
add any more names?..
despite my admonishment to
dave..any body is very welcome
to view the image and indeed
put it on the forum! its a big
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PostSubject: Re: R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face..   R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face.. EmptyMon Jan 27, 2014 3:25 pm

The number 14 you have as T Daw could very well be James Marshall, source 'Defenders of Ilkeston by MK Kirby", as Kris Wheatley was highly involved in assisting that publication I would suspect that she could have had something to do with that identification.

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PostSubject: Re: R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face..   R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face.. EmptyMon Jan 27, 2014 3:46 pm

Here's another attempt to name names - not by me I might add. Some agree with Xhosa's, some do not. What do people think?


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PostSubject: Re: R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face..   R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face.. EmptyMon Jan 27, 2014 4:51 pm

Steve,

The photograph you have posted is somewhat odd, as some of the writing on it is mine, but someone - and I have an idea who that was - has added other names and appears to have attempted to copy my scrawl. Saxby [sic]; Jobbins; Chard; Pitt; Hayes and Pip the Dog are not in my hand.

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i did not know any of that when i posted!
feel an oop's coming on..  Question 
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John

In that case better to take it down and leave you to respond. Interesting differences though.

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PostSubject: Re: R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face..   R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face.. EmptyMon Jan 27, 2014 7:38 pm

Steve,

No put it back up it has appeared on here before.

Les,

It would be easier for me to point out things if you posted the photograph on the site, because you've got names on there who were back in the U.K. when that photograph was taken Allan & Hitch leap out to me. Plus you have managed to solve the Bob Head riddle!

10 is certainly Windridge as he was a twin, and his niece let me see a photograph of her father.
19 is certainly not Roy of the 1st/24th, my subsequent research points to that being Alfred Henry Hook, as the same man appears in G Company 2nd/24th photograph taken at the same location.
Minehan is the long-service soldier below your number 7.

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PostSubject: Re: R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face..   R.D. Defender's, put a name to the face.. EmptyMon Jan 27, 2014 8:41 pm

JY  Very Happy  not able to post my self due to
technical issues..me, i cant seem to do
that, god knows ive tried, but may be
some kind soul might help!. very inter-
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Bonsoir,
I think n°20 is private (n° 25B963) David LEWIS (an alias for James OWEN) 2/24th B Coy.
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thank you 24th i really appreciate your kindness!
they say a little knowledge is a bad thing.. i dont
want to know, i would swamp the forum with my
inane postings..did i mention that i'm considered
a tad eccentric, explains a lot if you think about
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Mate. I bet you have loads of images that we would be interesting in. Post away, if you get stuck let me know.  agree

That RD defenders photo, is the clearest I have seen!
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kind words  Very Happy   Salute 
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frederic  Salute  your post made me think!
Toby Giese the men of the 24th page 50-51.  Rolling Eyes 
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xhosa2000 wrote:
frederic  Salute  your post made me think!
Toby Giese the men of the 24th page 50-51.  Rolling Eyes 

Bonsoir Xhosa,

No it's a other "source" (not primary)!
It seems to me it's a post of a priest in another forum (i don't have this message at hand).
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même à you.  Salute 
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24th your post got me thinking!
yes the image is clear, trouble
is i cant remember where i got
it from..its back in my bucket
with the text, some of which i
wrote..it was made for my scrap
-book, in which i make, very clear
that it was not ever intended for
publication and was a private en-
deavor..point being i mentioned
the guise book, but it certainly
did not come from there, where all
the illustration's are in the main
pretty poor!.
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Chatting to Kris Wheatley about this photo, some time back she had a message giving names to a lot of the defenders. It subsequently turned out that the author of the letter was a tad......strange. He put down his identification of individuals to weird and wonderful things, almost meta physical. Consequently things like Caleb Wood are incorrect.

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Chatting to Kris Wheatley about this photo, some time back she had a message giving names to a lot of the defenders. It subsequently turned out that the author of the letter was a tad......strange. He put down his identification of individuals to weird and wonderful things, almost meta physical. Consequently things like Caleb Wood are incorrect.

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Toby GIESE, i imagine...
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ctsg, thank you, most kind.  Very Happy   Salute 
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Number 10 ( Are we saying that is the Rev George Smith )

Number 19 ( No way is that William Roy)
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Can't see the point in members posting images then moving or deleting them.  No 
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Lucky I took a copy!

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sorry LH did not do that on purpose! i just
did not think..i will put it back soonest..i
dont know the script regarding photo b.
i put some more stuff on today so in my way
i thought i needed to make room. and i thought
any body could just right click on an image and
keep it! i have certainly right clicked enough!
any body can download any image i put there.  Salute 
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as i posted that, i was paused to make way
for a new post..yes it was you! jumping the
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The clear image of the R.D. Defenders, which i
could not remember where from!. its from. The
Times..War, a history in photographs. 2003
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Thanks mate!.
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Hi Les .
The picture you posted on photobucket of the RD Defenders is the one which has been acknowledged as being taken in Pinetown toward the end of the war , or War's end .
I've seen it in several books
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You have to be more accurate than that - the 2/24th left PMB on 21 October 1879 for the march to Port Natal with a brief stay at Pinetown. So the photograph at Pinetown could have been taken 22-25 October. Remember defenders from 1/24th and those hospitalised would have departed Port Natal on 27 August 1879 aboard the transport Egypt (or earlier) so are not in the group photograph.
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The photo was/is part of the Borquin collection
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Hiya 90th, yeah its the most memorable
pic of B company. Salute 

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Pinetown, Natal, January 1880!.
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