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PostSubject: Helpmekaar Field Hospital    Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:09 am

Seems a good likeness to me Frank , these later posts regarding RD should be moved to another thread , as it will become confusing with these in the Helpmekaar Field Hospital thread ! .
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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:36 am

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Centre right.
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Ive just been trawling through my Helpmekaar photos and have to admit being stumped, I cant find a profile match for the original photo but still looking.
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PostSubject: Franklins grave stone   Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:47 am

Hi Kenny/Frank,

Thanks, seems to tally.


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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:16 am

Hi Kenny
Try as I might I just cant conjure up a mountain/hill profile in the Helpmekaar area to match the profile in JohnY's original photo but the one Ive posted of RD taken very close to Fort Melvill does match very well.

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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:08 am

Kenny,

Here's a close-up from my photograph, and without a doubt that is Fort Bromhead, with part of hospital still standing.

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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:06 pm

Wasn't RD renamed to Fort Bromhead ?
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PostSubject: Helpmekaar Field Hospital    Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:38 am

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I dont think RD was officially renamed Ft Bromhead , although , I believe it was sometimes known as such .
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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:37 am

Looking at JY photo, the building seems to on a hill, when of course RD was build on low ground near the river.
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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:41 am

Ulundi,

I take it from that remark you haven't been there?

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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:16 am

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Maybe these two photos will help you to orientate the various locations.
Standing next to Fort Melvill the actual drift is dead ahead, there is a large circular thatched roof that marks the RD hotel. That is the original drift position. The Mission is of to the right.
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The concrete bridge ( positioned I believe by amongst others John Young ) leads to iSandlwana which is on the skyline left of centre.
Fort Northampton is over the bridge to the left, the pont site is also just of picture to the left.



This is looking more to the right, in the centre on the skyline is the mission/Fort Bromhead location.
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The rocks in the foreground are I believe the area that the stonemasons were working in on the original photo posted by JY

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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:10 pm

Thanks Springbok...

I just thought in this link, the image supplied by JY, is Fort Bromhead. But it's looks like a Hugh construction.
http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com/vc/bromhead.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:30 pm

JY,

The tree on the right of the photo strongly suggests RD (i.e. Fort Bromhead).
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PostSubject: Fort Bromhead   Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:05 pm

Hi All, 
The nickname Fort Bromhead was used post the RD  battle when additional stone brestworks were constructed to further fortify Rorke's Drift. I will however post a picture shortly which shows the extensive nature of stone walling ( cattle kraal etc) PRIOR to the RD battle. Indeed, in addition, mealie sacks , biscuit boxes etc were used to construct the makeshift parapets, as well as wagons drawn up to close gaps in the defences , all of which were used successfully on 23/01/1879.

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PostSubject: Re: Helpmekaar field hospital   Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:19 pm

Thanks Barry, looking forward to photo. agree
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