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PostSubject: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 1:51 pm

This is an original print i have had for many years,
i would be very pleased if this could be accurately
dated..1881-1901..but when!.

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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 3:44 pm

The poster is headed 'His Majesty's Army' - therefore King Edward VII - so 1902 and then in 1905 the 24th's original grass green facings (cuffs and collars on the tunic) were restored - the date range for the poster is 1902-1905
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 3:48 pm

got me confused here Kenny, the print clearly states
HER majesty's army!
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 6:50 pm

Hiya Steve, yep thats the chap!now all i need
is the two vols that go with it, cant begin to tell
you how jealous i am that you have them! lol..
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 6:53 pm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C1890-British-Army-Uniforms-The-24th-South-Wales-Borderers-Chromolithograph-/231207173486
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 7:11 pm

Hiya Mr Greaves, thanks, very helpful  Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 7:21 pm

Sorry, a slip.

1881-1895 before the new rifles.
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 7:37 pm

Thanks a lot Kenny, new rifles, yes.
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 9:01 pm

https://archive.org/stream/hermajestysarmyd02rich#page/n5/mode/2up
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 10:23 pm

nice one John, thanks guys! iv'e downloaded the pdf.
bit of bed time reading tonight, also tracked a nice
set of two, ordered as i speak.  Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 10:30 pm

Well done Les. You know it makes sense. I think there is a third volume, indian and colonial troops.

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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyWed May 21, 2014 11:00 pm

Hi Les.

Well, it's after the 1st of July 1881, just look at the shoulder title, that is not a 24, it looks more like the SWB title that was worn after the old regiment lost both its line number and its old name, and also the cuff shape and facing colours are not those of the old 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment (grass green), they are the later ones that came after the reforms of 1881. He is depicted wearing a home service helmet and also the MH rifle appears to be a MK4, so it is not AZW. So although the SWB part might be right, the line number '24th' certainly is not, as these officially ended in 1881, and the SWB were never the 24th, they were just the SWB, as denoted by the shoulder title.
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 12:14 am

Again Steve many thanks, and yes mate it makes perfect sense!
i'm thirsting for more books at the mo so i will get vol 3 in time!

Hiya Martin, got to say mate you are preaching to the converted
with me, i have never known anyone keep the name of the ' old
24th ' the way you do, despite the wind ups from certain quarter's
who i know do it just to get a reaction, and i can well see it is done
with affection and humour which you take in good heart, i owe you
a long pm..camping..what an excellent phrase, i knew what you meant
straight away. pm you tomorrow mate!  Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 2:53 pm

Hi Les.

Yes, I know that some of these bounders do it to get a reaction, and I do take it all in good humour, they seem to know that I can't resist putting things right about the old 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment. If I see something that I know is wrong, I just can't resist correcting it, and some of them on here know that, and that's why they do it, the absolute stinkers  Very Happy 

I am going to have to start ignoring them aren't I  Rolling Eyes 

Ha ha, yes, 'camping' I wonder where that phrase came from, I know it's a very old saying in these parts.

Catch you later mate.  Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 3:42 pm

Les
Your very welcome.
I was going to ask, is the passport photo a recent one?

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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 4:17 pm

hiya Steve, passport photo?
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 4:48 pm

I suppose it might just be an Avatar.  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 5:44 pm

xhosa2000 wrote:
Again Steve many thanks, and yes mate it makes perfect sense!
i'm thirsting for more books at the mo so i will get vol 3 in time!

Hiya Martin, got to say mate you are preaching to the converted
with me, i have never known anyone keep the name of the ' old
24th ' the way you do
, despite the wind ups from certain quarter's
who i know do it just to get a reaction, and i can well see it is done
with affection and humour which you take in good heart, i owe you
a long pm..camping..what an excellent phrase, i knew what you meant
straight away. pm you tomorrow mate!  Salute 

And this chap!

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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 6:33 pm

Ha ha, cheers LH.

Can't see this old chaps name on the RD list, but I have noticed that Pte David Jenkins has been added, and not before time (IMO).
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PostSubject: Re: The Date Please   The Date Please EmptyThu May 22, 2014 6:51 pm

Hiya Steve, LH, and et tu Martin..i dont think i look
that bad! iv'e had a hard life, an early army experience
left me with chronic rheumatism and a hatred of confined
spaces, i was born in evesham worcestershire, but ended
up in manchester, of course i support the best team in the
land and all the world.  Very Happy 
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i used a time machine.  Very Happy 
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