WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Dawn Film. Chard: The army doesn’t like more than one disaster in a day.Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.
 
HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  GalleryGallery  PublicationsPublications  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» EDMUND FOWLER VC
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyFri Jun 21, 2019 8:02 pm by 1879graves

» Secrets of the National Archives
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyThu Jun 20, 2019 10:06 am by rusteze

» Rededication to Lance Sergeant James Taylor. 16tj June 2019
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyThu Jun 20, 2019 2:49 am by 90th

» Col. F.V. NORTHEY
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyWed Jun 19, 2019 11:51 pm by ADMIN

» Original Blue Books
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyWed Jun 19, 2019 11:11 am by rusteze

» Hitch had no luck with VC's
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyTue Jun 18, 2019 7:45 pm by 1879graves

» Gunner William George Taylor
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyTue Jun 18, 2019 10:08 am by Julian Whybra

» Francis S Alcock
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 8:45 pm by 1879graves

» Rev-Thomas Foran
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 6:42 pm by 1879graves

» Gras Fusil 1874
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 5:11 pm by rusteze

» The Pigeon Pie Incident
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 1:42 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» Henry Hook VC
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 11:48 am by rusteze

» 1373 Pte Alfred Henry Hook VC.
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 9:17 am by ADMIN

» Lance Sergeant James Taylor (25B/82) E Company 2nd Battalion, 24th Regiment (2nd Warwickshire),
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyMon Jun 17, 2019 9:14 am by ADMIN

» My new project HELP WANTED
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptyFri Jun 14, 2019 10:18 am by Julian Whybra

Brev. Lt-Col. R.H. Buller, VC, Staff: 2/60th KRRC-Zungwini,Hlobane, Khambula, Ulundi
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BullerBrev.[Mac and Shad] (Isandula Collection)
Anglo-Zulu war: Walking the battlefield of Kambula
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Top posters
90th
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
littlehand
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
ADMIN
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
1879graves
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
rusteze
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
John
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
impi
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Top posting users this month
1879graves
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
ADMIN
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
rusteze
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
90th
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
John Young
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Petty Officer Tom
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
aussie inkosi
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
scotrohrer2000
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_leftHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. BarHon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 3
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.

Share
 

 Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot.

Go down 
AuthorMessage
littlehand

littlehand

Posts : 7072
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 50
Location : Down South.

Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. Empty
PostSubject: Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot.   Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot. EmptySat May 31, 2014 11:09 pm

"CAPTAIN THE HON. FITZWILLIAM ELLIOT (1849-1928)
Anglo-Zulu War 1879:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Description:
A group of 13 letters and 2 continuations to his mother written between 20th May and 4th August 1879 whilst on active service in Zululand by Captain the Hon. Fitzwilliam Elliot, 93rd Sutherland Highlanders (93rd Foot), son of the 3rd Earl of Minto and younger brother of the 4th Earl of Minto, Governor General of Canada and Viceroy of India. Most with the envelopes addressed to his mother the Countess of Minto at 48 Eaton Square, London or Minto House, Hawick, N.B., with the 6d rubber stamp – ‘On active service in the field, no stamps procurable.’ The letters are closely written on 74 pages of folded blue note paper each 200 x 125 mm. Elliot, as an experienced officer and from a privileged social position, provides valuable insight into the campaign and the organisation of the army.
Also included:
Four carte de visite photographs, two of Elliot himself which are inscribed in his hand on the back, ‘Self on joining 93rd in  1867', and one each of his mother and father the Earl and Countess of Minto.
A carte de visite photograph of John Dunn taken by B.Kisch, Photographer & Artist, Durban, Natal.
Elliot’s ‘Record of Services of Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot.’ Army Form B.199, printed on blue paper.
Elliot’s commission appointing him Captain on 19th October 1878.

Elliot left England aboard the Conway Castle on 20th May 1879 and arrived in Cape Town on Friday, 6th June. He stayed at Government House where he was privy to some of the gossip in high places surrounding the war and the recent death of the Prince Imperial. He comments about Lord Chelmsford, ‘He has excellent officers in his army but cannot apparently get them to pull well together owing in a great degree to the unpopularity of Col. Crealock his military secretary….Now I am not with the army yet and am quite at liberty to tell you everything I hear of my future Commander in Chief and in saying that I believe Frere has little confidence in him, there is the impression the staff here has given me and of course in giving it to me they know, probably wish, that I won’t keep it to myself. No one seems to expect the war to end this year.’
He departed on 9th June aboard The Melrose arriving in Durban on Saturday 14th June where he received orders to joint Lieutenant-Colonel Crealock’s column on the Tugela River. He comments about the Prince Imperial’s death, ‘I think as usual people are hasty in their strong condemnation of (Captain) Carey. I don’t know him, but I do many of his friends and they all say he a good fellow but not a brilliant one. He is to be tried and I am afraid will be found guilty in which case there is no choice of punishment. It is a very nasty business.’
By 30th June he was at Camp Durnford where his detachment was involved with raiding the Zulu kraals and where they anticipated an advance to Ulundi and the arrival of Sir Garnet Wolseley by ship. However Wolseley was unable to land owing to rough seas and was forced to return to Durban. Elliot describes meeting John Dunn. There is evident frustration with Crealock’s slow progress, ‘His staff did all they could to make him move, but no, he would do nothing…he has had a grand chance and lost it and I should doubt his ever receiving another good command. If he does I hope I shan’t be serving under him.’
In a letter dated Camp Durnford, 10th July, he describes the cavalry and ‘Dunn’s men’ moving in support of the advance towards Ulundi and meeting the first Zulu warriors who had been present at the battle of Ulundi on 5th July and the news that Cetshwayo had escaped with one regiment to the north.
On 13th July he writes of receiving the first dispatches from Lord Chelmsford’s column about the victory at Ulundi. Happiness at this success is tinged with disappointment and discontent with Crealock for not having pressed on more vigorously. ‘Yesterday I was speaking to Sir Garnet who asked me if I have been lucky enough to see anything and I answered that I had been so far fortunate in having seen everything that was to have been seen with the column since its advance, but that was almost nothing…..on which Sir Garnet replied that, “ I should have thought not of what the column should or could have done, but rather by what sort of man it was commanded.” These are strong words for the C. in C. to use to me….’
He continues describing his own personal experiences, ‘I have therefore been very lucky in being attached to the cavalry and seeing more action than anyone not belonging to it. They have been doing all the dirty work for months past. In such a war there is nothing to be gained except by very fear and no glory in defeating such savages against whom there is no feeling of enmity but rather the opposite. I have taken rather a fancy to the Zulus, they are always so thoroughly manly, they never look cowed, but hold themselves always like men, never appearing angry, nor even humiliated at the loss of homes, cattle, women, everything indeed which they possess.’
On 19th July he writes describing a parade at which Wolseley presented Chard with his V.C. for his role at Rorke’s Drift commenting, ‘He (Chard) is a rum’un to look at, and most unprepossessing. It is generally considered that the V.C. is a most unsuitable reward and it would have been better to have given something else. Chard was the senior officer at Rorke’s Drift and got the chief kudos, whereas Bromhead was in point of fact in charge of the fighting element. The man to whom the chief credit for the defence of the post in given is a commissariat officer, but as he is a non-combatant it is probably his doings which will never be known beyond the troops here. Pearson has returned to England where probably he will be made much of, greatly to the amusement of all here. He is quite universally considered to be one of the greatest muffs this war has produced.’
In a letter dated 5th August Elliot gives a very detailed account of the composition of the 1st Division (Crealock’s column) naming all the senior officers and comments on them. He describes the equipment carried by the men and their rations, and also the transport wagons and what they carried.
The final letter, dated at Ulundi, 12th August 1978.
William Fitzwilliam Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound, retired from the army as a Lieutenant-Colonel. His service records show that prior to Zululand he had served in Nova Scotia in Canada. In his final letters he makes mention of wishing to be posted back to Canada where there was evidently a romantic interest for on 4th February 1880 in Halifax he married Elizabeth Fanny Rutherford. They had three children. His son ‘Jock’ served in the Anglo-Boer War 1899-1902. After the Zulu campaign Elliot served as Deputy Assistant Adjutant General Dublin District 1881-1884, in the War Office from 1884-89 and North East District 1889-92. He published two books, The Border Elliots and the Family of Minto (1897) and The Battle of Flodden and the Raids of 1513 (1911)"

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Source:http://www.antiquarianauctions.com/bids/autograph-letters-of-captain-the-hon-fitzwilliam-elliot-1849-1928- 
Taken from site above to preserve text and photos, as they will be lost when sold. 
Back to top Go down
 
Hon. William Fitzwilliam Elliot.
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: THE ONE'S THE HISTORY BOOKS FORGOT-
Jump to: