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PostSubject: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySat Jun 07, 2014 12:24 am

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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySat Jun 07, 2014 8:55 am

Can't make out what's happened to this medal.?
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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySat Jun 07, 2014 11:34 am

24th.

It's a composite showing the rim arond the edge of the medal.
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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySat Jun 07, 2014 11:59 am

Have our medal specialists seen one of these before?

It must be an impression from the medal - see it is reversed. But what's it for - is it a brooch?

I don't think it is a die. How did they get the naming around the perimeter to curve?

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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySat Jun 07, 2014 5:52 pm


Same principle. But only half turned.
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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySat Jun 07, 2014 6:12 pm

John

Are you saying the medal was destroyed to do it? And why is the image of the medal itself reversed?

Littlehand

Do we know where the image came from?

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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySun Jun 08, 2014 8:56 pm

The medal has not been tampered with and is perfectly alright.

The "ring of naming" around the medal is a series of photographs or one "panoramic" photograph taken in order to show the naming as it appears on the medal and then placed around a picture of the disc in order to show the obverse or reverse of the medal along with the naming all in one picture.

I believe you can do something like this with a device called an i phone.
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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySun Jun 08, 2014 10:56 pm

Didn't think of that. It's possible !
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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptySun Jun 08, 2014 10:57 pm

I'm still not sure that is right.

Look at the words "South Africa" on the reverse of the medal - they are back to front - as is the lion engraving. Like in a mirror. They would be that way if someone had taken a soft metal pressing of the real medal.

Shame we do not know the source.

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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptyMon Jun 09, 2014 8:50 am

The picture of the disc has been reversed prior to the circular picture of the naming being added.

Here is an example of the use of this type of image/ picture to show naming types. Whilst they are not of a South Africa General Service Medal they are a good example of how it is used by auction houses to show the naming of medals.

http://www.forrestdale.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Pictures/WebEngravings.JPG

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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptyMon Jun 09, 2014 9:06 am

Nice one Tenedos! Mystery solved.
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PostSubject: Re: 1840 Pte William Steveton.    1840 Pte William Steveton.  EmptyMon Jun 09, 2014 10:45 am

Well done that man!

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