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PostSubject: Pte. Patrick Miller KIA Isandlwana   Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:29 pm

I came across the following page on the CWGC site regarding Pte. William Patrick Miller of the Royal Newfoundland Regiment who died in 1915 - his father was 1-24/508 Pte. Patrick Miller (1st Btn 24th) who was killed in action at Isandlwana.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/722451/MILLER,%20WILLIAM%20PATRICK

Patrick Miller's wife Frances died in Canada in 1926 & is buried in Hardwood Cemetery, Sydney, Nova Scotia; there is no mention on her headstone of either her husband or son.

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PostSubject: Re: Pte. Patrick Miller KIA Isandlwana   Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:25 pm

Tim,

This is one of strange coincidences which conflict seems to bring forth. Pte William Miller of the Newfoundlanders landed in Gallipoli on 20 Sep 1915 - the battalion was assigned to 88th Brigade of the British 29th Division - he was wounded and died aboard a hospital ship on 17 Oct 1915 - and was buried at sea. He is commemorated on the main Newfoundlander memorial at Beaumont Hamel, France where so many of members of this battalion perished on the first day of the Somme. In the 29th Division - 87th Brigade - was 2nd Battalion South Wales Borderers - the old 2/24th who were at Rorke's Drift and Isandlwana. The hospital ship - was a Union-Castle line ship called SS Galeka - the local tribe which kept the 1/24th busy in 1877-78. So Francis and 5 children (including young William Patrick) must have been in South Africa at the time of the Frontier and Zulu wars.
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PostSubject: Re: Pte. Patrick Miller KIA Isandlwana   Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:02 pm

Kenny,

Many thanks for the extra info, I did read something about 'SS Galeka' whilst looking into this & thought it a bit of a coincidence....

Do you have any further information on Patrick & Frances' other children?

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PostSubject: Re: Pte. Patrick Miller KIA Isandlwana   Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:38 pm

Hi Tim

Here are a couple of leads that might get you a little further. First a Roll of the Married Establishment of 1/24th in South Africa 1876 showing Patrick and Francis and five children ages 13 to 4 months.
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And a family tree from Ancestry showing the descendants in Canada of their daughter Elizabeth.
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PostSubject: Re: Pte. Patrick Miller KIA Isandlwana   Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:24 pm

Steve,

Many thanks, much appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: Pte. Patrick Miller KIA Isandlwana   Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:23 pm

Tim,

1-24/508 Pte Miller was in St Helena with H Coy (Capt Wardell/Lt Cavaye) 1/24th between Aug 1876 and Aug 1877.
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