WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Lt. Col. Pulleine: His Lordship is of the cetain opinion that it's far too difficult an approach to be chosen by the Zulu command. Col. Durnford: Yes, well... difficulty never deterred a Zulu commander.
 
HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  GalleryGallery  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Norman Lister Black. NNC
Today at 7:11 pm by Chas

»  Isandlwana cultural centre
Today at 3:08 pm by xhosa2000

» The death of His Royal Highness Prince Shange (1936-2017)
Today at 3:00 pm by xhosa2000

» Zulu 'flag' at Khambula
Today at 7:56 am by littlehand

» Coghill and Melvill issue
Today at 5:47 am by SRB1965

» James Bickley, Isandlwana survivor
Yesterday at 7:24 pm by Frank Allewell

» Adding to the Library
Wed May 24, 2017 4:52 pm by xhosa2000

» Lt. A. Mynor's Gravesite at Ft Pearson Cemetery
Wed May 24, 2017 2:53 pm by 90th

» Lieut-Gen Sir Edward Hopton , K.C.B., J.P., D.L
Wed May 24, 2017 10:09 am by John Young

» EDWARD HOARE REEVES
Wed May 24, 2017 12:01 am by littlehand

» Capt. A. Gardner 14th Hussars (Staff Officer No.3 Column)
Tue May 23, 2017 1:16 pm by littlehand

» Thinking of my Home Town
Tue May 23, 2017 10:24 am by rusteze

» Lt. A. Mynors 3rd Btn 60th Rifles.
Tue May 23, 2017 9:31 am by ADMIN

» RYLEY John Rutherford
Tue May 23, 2017 5:09 am by 90th

» Frontier Light Horse Kambula Camp Col. Wood’s Column Zulu Land South Africa
Tue May 23, 2017 12:08 am by littlehand

Captain Lord E.F. Gifford, VC
Pursuit of Cetshwayo [Mac & Shad] (Isandula Collection)
The Origin and Rise of the Zulu Nation
Our Favourite Web Links
Legacy of the Rorke’s Drift Heroes Kings Own. The Wardrobe. The National Army Museum. The Anglo Zulu War Museum. The Zulu War 1879. Soldiers Of The Queen. Zulu War Historical Society. John Dunn Foundation The Martini-Henry Rifle. Ian Knight's Website. Zulu War Author & Historian. All About the Martini Henry. Neil Aspinshaws new website. The Regimental Museum of The Royal Welsh (Brecon) Swords From The USA.
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Top posters
90th
 
littlehand
 
Frank Allewell
 
ADMIN
 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
 
John
 
Mr M. Cooper
 
impi
 
1879graves
 
tasker224
 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
The ammunition question
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.

Share | 
 

 The companies on the ridge

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : Previous  1, 2
AuthorMessage
Frank Allewell

avatar

Posts : 6286
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 70
Location : Cape Town South Africa

PostSubject: Re: The companies on the ridge   Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:17 pm

Hummm, pressed the wrong button. Yes Bill I had permission to see the three manuscrips and to photograph them as the museum wouldn't Photostat due to the condition.
Speak to Richard Davies, top guy.

Cheers
Back to top Go down
Bill8183



Posts : 11
Join date : 2015-11-08
Age : 48
Location : Sunderland

PostSubject: Re: The companies on the ridge   Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:20 pm

Hi Frank,
Ah so the photo was of the re-write. I never knew that, many thanks that's clarified a lot. Guess it's time to email the museum. Much appreciated.

Regards
Back to top Go down
Winter



Posts : 2
Join date : 2017-04-16

PostSubject: Re: The companies on the ridge   Sun May 14, 2017 8:12 pm

Had a look at C Norris Newman book: On campaign with the British Army. In the book a map that he uses (Location 1035 in the Kindle edition) the 1st position of Cavaye/Mostyn/Dyson is nowhere near the Talehane ridge. Or am I interpreting the map wrong?
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

avatar

Posts : 6286
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 70
Location : Cape Town South Africa

PostSubject: Re: The companies on the ridge   Mon May 15, 2017 8:34 am

Hi Winter
Have a look at the Gun position he shows. He does say drawn from memory, but he wasn't there at the battle, just that evening and later when the battlefield was revisited. So rather than drawn from memory it should be drawn from information supplied. The most interesting thing about Noggs map, for me, is the note at the bottom, South of the road, 'lots of dead found here'. that he would have personally witnessed, its also east of Durnfords last stand.

Cheers
Back to top Go down
Winter



Posts : 2
Join date : 2017-04-16

PostSubject: Re: The companies on the ridge   Fri May 19, 2017 5:26 pm

Thanks
Agree goes against the 'classical theory' of the troop dispositions.
Yet interested in the Newman map as it is strategically logical ie a troop deployment against a threat from the Zulu right horn - a threat that was already apparent from the early morning. The 'accepted' maps from the battlefield all show an extended firing line - completely ignoring the right horn of the zulus and also leaving the camp unprotected.
Puzzling ......
Equally puzzling is the automatic assumption that 'the ridge' refers to the Tahelane ridge. The battlefield is full of 'ridges'. Quoting from one of Black's burial reports: ' Arrived on the now well-known and oft- described ridge, a horrible scene of desolation was spread before them ...'
This definitely does not refer to the Tahelane ridge. So companies 'send to the ridge' may have ended up at any of the numerous ridges on the battlefield.
Puzzled but fascinated .....
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

avatar

Posts : 6286
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 70
Location : Cape Town South Africa

PostSubject: Re: The companies on the ridge   Sat May 20, 2017 4:28 am

I mentioned a few posts back that we tend to base everything around Essex statement. Penn Symonds didn't believe him! I'm also very skeptical, take a look at his map.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: The companies on the ridge   

Back to top Go down
 
The companies on the ridge
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 2 of 2Go to page : Previous  1, 2

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: