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Captain David Moriarity, 80th, KIA Ntombe
This photograph taken when he was in the 7th Regiment prior to his transfer to the 80th. [Mac & Shad] (Isandula Collection)
The Battle of Isandlwana: One of The Worst Defeats of The British Empire - Military History
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:57 pm

Frank
Reading your suggestions for the Isandlwana Cultural Centre brought to mind a similar development a lot closer to your Cape Town home. It is the West Coast Fossil Park near Langebaan, where a Lotto-funded Visitor's Centre was recently opened. It is not a battlefield that is the attraction being preserved, but the remains of fossiliferous deposits exposed in an abandoned phosphate mine. It could be a 'outing with a difference' for you, and it might provide you with some ammunition to press your earlier suggestions.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:21 pm

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Well, possibly I might have let my Angst show too much, but the site means a lot to me and the thought of its alteration for the worse is very distressing.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:03 pm

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I understand completely.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:48 pm

I suppose that one of the questions raised is how many jobs would be created for the people who live in the area...
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:18 pm

The abiding memory of Newfoundland Park is the great Caribou atop a rock looking out across the Somme battlefield. I once addressed a large gathering of Canadian security people in Ottawa about the various threats we then faced in the UK. They were plainly closely engaged with whatever it was I was saying and then broke out into rapturous applause at the end - not something I was particularly used too I have to say! Afterwards a colleague in the audience told me that all the time I was speaking a large screen behind me carried pictures of Canada Geese sweeping over the lakes and forests. Emotional lot the Canadians.

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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:13 pm

Bonjour Frank,
Just for information:
"In March 1880 Lieutenant M. O’Connell of the 60th Rifles was sent to iSandlwana accompanied by a detachment of the Natal mounted Police. O’Connell found that on the slopes which drained into the dongas many graves had become disturbed. His methods in redress were nothing if not practical;

Each man was provided with a sack to carry any bones he might find, and every third or fourth man had a spade or pick to dig up the bones in those places where they had not been properly buried, and where the ground did not seem to be such as to make the recovering of old graves desirable. I extended my men in a line across the place where Lord Chelmsford’s camp had been, and moved them slowly backwards and forwards. They put all the uncovered bones they could find into the sacks, and renewed the stones and earth over the graves that required it. As soon as three or four sacks of bones had been collected in this way, I caused them to be carried to [a specified spot] and there buried them in two large deep graves…"
Source: Ian Knight. "Companion to the AZW", Burying the dead

According to IK's hypothesis, it's possible  in the months and years after June 1879, that deep graves were dug on the battlefield.
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PostSubject: Reburials   Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:46 pm

Hi Fred,

…… and indeed they were. Their location however had no nexis with any other event.

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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:06 pm

Bonsoir Barry,
I am sorry, I would have written "according to Lieutenant O'Connell"....
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:27 pm

Latest Google Earth image shows the Cultural Centre excavations - image quality is improving.

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