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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:50 pm

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Unfortunately, it is much less romantic.
Two and a half hours of transport per day ... Salute

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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:55 pm

Steve if I could spell Guffaw I would.
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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:40 pm

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The fact that someone sends a black messenger (and not a white man) who does not speak English tends to indicate a "critical situation".

An example of this assertion:
Alan Gardner stated : "When I saw all was lost, I sent un order by a Basuto to the Officer on Rork's Drift, telling him to fortify, and hold the house. I sent a similar order to Helpmekaar". (PP C2260, p.101)

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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:49 pm

Sorry, Gardner didn't tell us if the Basuto spoke English.
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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:09 pm

Ah the cicadas, I remember well my time in Arles with the sunflowers and the cicadas. But then my ear went missing and I could hear their melodious song no more.

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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:13 am

Steve. More speculation. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:28 am

Wasn't the message sent by Gardner to RD a written one?
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PostSubject: Durnford's retreat    Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:20 pm

Alan Gardner from memory states he wrote a pencilled message to the officer in charge at RD , to hold their ground .
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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:00 pm

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Ah the cicadas, I remember well my time in Arles with the sunflowers and the cicadas. But then my ear went missing and I could hear their melodious song no more.

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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:41 pm

In truth I am jealous, it is freezing here!

I take it we have all read Keith Smith's chapter on the messages in "Dead was Everything". He thinks the native on the horse was the third messenger from HB.

As a random thought, is there a remote possibility that the message came from Scott, who was clearly sending messages to the camp and to Durnford ?

Lastly, another reason I doubt the native messenger came from Durnford is that Edward D says nothing about it in "A Soldiers Life and Work". ED has emphasised every positive aspect he can about AD's actions at Isandhlwana and I am sure he would have mentioned any attempt to warn LC.

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PostSubject: Durnford's retreat    Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:46 pm

Hi Steve
You are certainly right there about ED , absolutely no doubt if he believed the messenger was from Anthony , he clearly would've said so .
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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:33 am

Bonjour Steve and Gary,
The correct answer about ED and his thought about the black's messenger is already in this thread. If you are interested by it, see a previous message posted by me (November, 6, 2016: 8.24 a.m.).
Time for me to leave this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords retreat.   Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:06 am

I missed that Frederic, quite right. Jackson references Edward in Hill of the Sphinx.

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