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Carrying on the quiz theme. Name the three who have an AZW "connection".

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Bonjour Steve,
Officers from the 1st KDG?
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Bonjour Frederic

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PostSubject: Re: And another.   And another. EmptyMon Feb 20, 2017 7:58 am

Steve,

Officers of 'C' Troop, Corps of Royal Engineers, circa 1873/4, the photograph purports to include two Irish-born Isandlwana casualties, however, in my opinion there is only one present.

Left to right: Lt. Charles Frederick Cobbe Beresford; Lt. John Collins MacGregor; Major Arthur George Durnford; Lt. Killingworth Richard Todd & Lt. Francis Hartwell Macdowel.

MacGregor served with 'C' Troop during 2nd invasion of Zululand, and then the Sekhukhune campaign.

Macdowel was killed in action at Isandlwana.

In 1879 Arthur Durnford, Anthony's brother, was based at the School of Military Engineering, Chatham.

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JY you are simply too good. Correct in every respect! My annotated copy is dated 1876 and says that MacGregor was killed at Ingogo in 1881 while acting as military secretary to Sir George Colley. I thought Arthur Durnford may have been the giveaway - he so resembles AW. Just out of interest who was the purported second Isandhlwana casualty?

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PostSubject: Re: And another.   And another. EmptyMon Feb 20, 2017 10:54 am

Steve,

In the booklet The Red Earth - The Royal Engineers and the Zulu War 1879, published in 1996 by The Royal Engineers Museum, Arthur is mistakenly identified as Anthony in the key to the photograph that appears facing page 10. I believe the error has never been corrected in subsequent reissues of the work.

MacGregor, by then a Captain, was indeed killed in action at Schuinshoogte, aka Ingogo, on 8th February 1881.

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Thanks John, I should have seen that. Too many Durnfords in the RE! Here's another shot, this time with Lt Bagnold who served with C Troop in the Transvaal in 1881/2.
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