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PostSubject: Re: An Old Zulu Warrior   An Old Zulu Warrior EmptyMon Jun 12, 2017 11:04 pm

interesting he say's we "stab them as they woke up". Could be refering to the men coming out of the tents as they entered the camp.
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PostSubject: Re: An Old Zulu Warrior   An Old Zulu Warrior EmptyMon Jun 12, 2017 11:23 pm

I thought that odd too.. who would be kipping?. they had been stood to.
stood down, and fell in again.. reckon the old boy was embellishing a
little. " we attacked the English in the early morning " err no!.
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PostSubject: An old zulu warrior    An Old Zulu Warrior EmptyTue Jun 13, 2017 4:27 am

Wonder if he was confused with Intombie Drift ? . Seriously , I've read reports where the Zulu have claimed to have killed men coming out of the tents at Isandlwana , there were many Grooms and other I suppose non line infantry men in the camp on that day , but with the battle commencing I cant see why , or how , anyone would decide to go to a tent , you'd think everyone would want to be watching ' those Heathens ' copping a pasting ! .
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PostSubject: Re: An Old Zulu Warrior   An Old Zulu Warrior EmptyTue Jun 13, 2017 7:37 am

Hi,

It does make you wonder if the old boy was talking of Intombi but the writer assumed it was Isandlwana (it being more famous).

He was '80' odd (maybe in 1927) making him 30 ish at the time of the Zulu War.

He claims to have lead a regiment (company?), so if you think about it the iNdluyengwe were in their late 20's but did not do much fighting at Isandlwana so I find it hard to credit him with killing 6, especially in the tents.

I feel its more likely that he was talking about Intombi and the correspondent (Dewdney - who I think was South African and wrote for the Rand Daily Mail) either deliberately or accidently attributed it to being Isandlwana.

Just my musings......
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PostSubject: Re: An Old Zulu Warrior   An Old Zulu Warrior EmptyTue Jun 13, 2017 7:07 pm

The only reference I can come across is in JS Vol 4 Msiyana Chief of the Xulu tribe marked as deceased. The file evidence was taken 18.9.1900.
The fact that he seems to link up iSandlwana with RD and he says he lead that attack is rather strange.
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PostSubject: Re: An Old Zulu Warrior   An Old Zulu Warrior EmptyThu Jun 22, 2017 6:52 am

Just out of interest (with help from Petty Officer Tom), I have found reference to a 'Manyanyoba' who commanded with Mblini at iNtombi or just prior to the battle

I wonder if this could be the 'old Zulu' whose name was miss spelt or written phonetically by the writer

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