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PostSubject: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:15 am

How common are medals to the Natal Mounted Police?
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PostSubject: Medals to the NMP   Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:02 am

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They are nearly as rare as Hen's Teeth ! . Shocked Shocked Actually... probably rarer !.
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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:47 am

90th wrote:
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They are nearly as rare as Hen's Teeth ! . Shocked Shocked Actually... probably rarer !.
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I feared that might be the case!!



Off Topic What about later campaigns, is the same to be said?
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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:29 am

What is interesting is, that the few I've found that have sold over the last couple of years, haven't been that expensive. The cheapest one (without clasp) was £240, another no clasp went for £400. Right up to £6800 for an Isandhlwana casualty.

F. G. H. Bradbury, who was from Bedford, England, attested for the Natal Mounted Police in August 1877 and was one of around 80 officers and men held in reserve at Pietermaritzburg and Harding at the time of the Zulu War. He was discharged in December 1879. £400

Pavy was a member of the Natal Mounted Police’s H.Q. and reserves who didn’t cross the Zululand border and received 80 South Africa Medals without clasp. £240


Trooper Francis Secretan was killed in action at Isandhlwana on 22 January 1879. He was one of 26 men of the Natal Mounted Police killed in the battle, all of whom are recorded by name on the memorial in Pietermaritzburg. Sold with full confirmation. £6800



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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:32 am

£26,500 for "The important Rorke’s Drift group of four awarded to Colonel H. “Harry” Lugg, Natal Militia, who, having departed Devon to seek his fortune in South Africa, enlisted as a Trooper in the Natal Mounted Police and fought with distinction in the defence of that place on 22 January 1879: his account of the action - noted for its inclusion of the quote “As black as hell and as thick as grass” - was subsequently published in the home press, while his heroic deeds were further commemorated by his inclusion in Alphonse de Neuville’s famous oil painting, itself said to have been based upon a sketch provided by Lugg"
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PostSubject: Medals to the NMP   Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:02 pm

Yes Medals to members of the NMP unclasped ( who didnt get into zululand ) do come up from time to time , and can be purchased for a reasonable price , but the one's for Casualties , or survivors of actions, are rarely seen with the exception of the couple you mention , and they go for Big Bucks ( GBP's ! ) . I've always wanted to get one , along with one to a Natal Carbineer , as well as a couple of other Colonial Units but it hasnt happened .
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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:18 pm

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Yes Medals to members of the NMP unclasped ( who didnt get into zululand ) do come up from time to time , and can be purchased for a reasonable price , but the one's for Casualties , or survivors of actions,  are rarely seen with the exception of the couple you mention , and they go for Big Bucks ( GBP's ! ) . I've always wanted to get one , along with one to a Natal Carbineer , as well as a couple of other Colonial Units but it hasnt happened .
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On my budget an unclasped example is going to be as good as it gets Very Happy .
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PostSubject: Medals to the NMP   Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:21 pm

Fair enough VD , might be my only hope as well . Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:57 am

Although I live in Natal and have a particular interest in local regiments, I have had little success in finding Zulu War medals. For collectors like me, medals to Isandlwana casualties and escapers are impossibly expensive, so I have focussed on the next best and much cheaper medals to men who were on the Dartnell Patrol. Although they were close to the action, they survived intact. They were the first to encounter the horrors on the battlefield.

The single NMP. NC, and Buffalo Border Guard medals to men on the Dartnell Patrol that are in my collection all came from local sources and were relatively cheap. Another much more fortunate local collector recently purchased from the family a NC KIA at Isandlwana for a bargain price after it had it had received an insultingly low offer from a London auction house.

There are occasionally benefits to living in the Colonies!

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PostSubject: Medals to the NMP   Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:04 pm

Hi Brett .
I dont doubt it Brett ! . Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:07 am

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Yes Medals to members of the NMP unclasped ( who didnt get into zululand ) do come up from time to time , and can be purchased for a reasonable price , but the one's for Casualties , or survivors of actions,  are rarely seen with the exception of the couple you mention , and they go for Big Bucks ( GBP's ! ) . I've always wanted to get one , along with one to a Natal Carbineer , as well as a couple of other Colonial Units but it hasnt happened .
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On my budget an unclasped example is going to be as good as it gets Very Happy .





My quest to try and obtain a medal (any medal) to the Natal Mounted Police goes on.

But something that has occurred to me is, should I be lucky enough to actually find one, just how much scope is there into researching them?



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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:51 am

Most men in the NMP at the time of the Zulu War were British-born, so their early lives may be well documented, but records in South African archives tend to be sparse to non-existent. Terry Sole's account of the NMP in his book on the Colonials in the AZW does at least give a context for the men and their service in that war

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PostSubject: Medal to the NMP    Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:44 pm

I was lucky enough to get a NMP SAGS from the last Spinx medal Auction , it was to a chap who had the same initials as my father , I couldn't let it slide !
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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:59 pm

Brett Hendey wrote:
Most men in the NMP at the time of the Zulu War were British-born, so their early lives may be well documented, but records in South African archives tend to be sparse to non-existent.   Terry Sole's account of the NMP in his book on the Colonials in the AZW does at least give a context for the men and their service in that war

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Thanks Brett. I'll keep searching perhaps one day, I'll find one............................
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PostSubject: Medals to the NMP   Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:40 am

Victorian Dad if I see an unclasped NMP medal I'll let you know.
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PostSubject: Re: Medals to the Natal Mounted Police   Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:59 am

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Victorian Dad if I see an unclasped NMP medal I'll let you know.
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Many thanks 90th, I'd appreciate that!!!!!
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