WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Dawn Lt Col Pulleine Lord Chelmsford assures us that there is no way the Zulu can get around us without our knowing. Col Durnford Zulu generals have a nasty habit of doing the unexpected It might be wise to picket the hills
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  PublicationsPublications  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» The Western Slopes
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyToday at 1:54 pm by Frank Allewell

» Talk by Rob Caskie
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyYesterday at 8:10 am by barry

» How to obtain Service History of recipients in the 58th Foot
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyMon Oct 14, 2019 10:16 am by FredK

» Griqualand West Constabulary
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySun Oct 13, 2019 2:42 pm by Victorian Dad

» Mr. John Hinshaw
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Oct 05, 2019 10:43 pm by Frank Allewell

» Memorial at Entombe Drift vandalised
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Oct 05, 2019 8:12 pm by John Young

» 1/1st NNC officers
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Oct 04, 2019 10:10 am by Julian Whybra

» Leadership of the NNC
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Oct 04, 2019 4:43 am by Frank Allewell

» Captain David Murray Smythe, 1st Batt. 1st Regt. Natal Native Contingent.
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Oct 03, 2019 9:58 am by Julian Whybra

» NMP helmets
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Oct 03, 2019 6:03 am by SRB1965

» Zulu War Veteran - Henry Saunders
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyWed Oct 02, 2019 7:52 pm by 1879graves

» Composite coy of 2/24th theory
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyWed Oct 02, 2019 9:39 am by Julian Whybra

» Shepstone's last stand
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyMon Sep 30, 2019 5:00 pm by WeekendWarrior

» New Book on AW Durnford
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Sep 28, 2019 2:34 am by krish

» Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Sep 27, 2019 6:34 pm by WeekendWarrior

The Prince Imperial of France--rare pose.
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Screenshot-20190905-111641-Outlook-181x240 Isandula Collection)
Zulu History
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Top posters
90th
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
littlehand
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
ADMIN
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
1879graves
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
rusteze
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
John
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
impi
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Top posting users this month
Julian Whybra
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
SRB1965
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
1879graves
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
John Young
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
WeekendWarrior
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
FredK
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Herbie
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
ymob
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
barry
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 3
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.

Share
 

 Structures near the Manzimyama Stream

Go down 
AuthorMessage
rusteze

rusteze

Posts : 2881
Join date : 2010-06-02

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 10:49 am

Some very interesting photos of the Manzimyama Stream area from Frank. The first is a remarkable (and early) photo of an impi making its way along the Manzimyama stream that I have not seen before. Frank has taken a recent comparison shot which I have put alongside. The third picture is what looks like a demolished cairn on the west bank of the stream.I will leave Frank to comment further.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Steve Reinstadtler
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell

Posts : 7275
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 72
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 11:39 am

On Boasts sketch he does indicate a number of cairns on the western side of the Manzimyama. In the early photo theres at least 6 fairly large cairns which would indicate around 30 to40 bodies. Would this in fact be the last stand? Or would it be all the exhausted fugitives being put to the sword. I have located some scattered piles of rocks in the aprox position, they could of course be anything but as per the one in the picture they do seem to have a structure about what is left.
Again of interest is the amount of bush covering the battlefield.
Cheers
Back to top Go down
SRB1965

SRB1965

Posts : 721
Join date : 2017-05-13
Age : 54
Location : Uttoxeter - the last place God made and he couldn't be bothered to finish it.....

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 11:44 am

Hi Steve/Frank

Any ideas of the date of the 'impi' photo and what the warriors were up to?

Could it possibly be a still from the 'Symbol of Sacrifice' - movie?

ta

Simon
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell

Posts : 7275
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 72
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 11:50 am

Sime
I don't know, the file I found them in has a number of old photos, including a shot of a cannon being towed along the old dirt road to iSandlwana from RD. At a guess looking at the collection I would put it around the Bambatha rebellion time, but that's such a guess. Hopefully JY can shed some light. Im happy to post the rest if it will help to date them.
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 1933
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 63
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 12:32 pm

Sime,

I would doubt it was from Symbol of Sacrifice as - to my knowledge - the iSandlwana scenes were filmed in the Transvaal.  For some reason the Prince Imperial scenes were filmed in KZN.

Looking at the photograph enlarged there appear to be quite a few Europeans amongst the Zulu.

I think it is one of Gugu’s early rehearsals for next year.  Joker

JY
Back to top Go down
Online
SRB1965

SRB1965

Posts : 721
Join date : 2017-05-13
Age : 54
Location : Uttoxeter - the last place God made and he couldn't be bothered to finish it.....

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 12:38 pm

For my shame - I have the film on DVD but I have never been able to get my wife & kids off the TV, long enough for me to watch it yet......
Back to top Go down
rusteze

rusteze

Posts : 2881
Join date : 2010-06-02

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 1:36 pm

Two more early photos from Frank. The film speed was sufficient to capture the moving gun team so I guess the photos must be 1900 or later.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Steve Reinstadtler
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell

Posts : 7275
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 72
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 1:49 pm

John if I may be so presumptious to post one of your photos from a similar angle?
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 1933
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 63
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 2:00 pm

Frank,

Post away old chap.

Looking at the gun crew I would hazard a guess at the Natal Field Artillery, circa the 1906 Rebellion.

I can’t make out if that is a gun-shield or limber playing tricks on my eyes. If it is gun-shield we could looking the Great War period.

JY
Back to top Go down
Online
rusteze

rusteze

Posts : 2881
Join date : 2010-06-02

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 3:49 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
John Young Collection
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: