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Found this whilst carrying out some research on Conference Hill.

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Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read in the papers...
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Hello gardner1879,

Now this is right up my street! I would be really interested if you manage to find some names and the likely place where they fell. I have a relative who fought and died there with the Natal Mounted Police, he was a farrier - George Henry Banger.

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Kyle
The Natal Carbineers found buried round Durnford were identified (see my Granger essay in Studs in the ZW vol V). Others round Durnford were 24th men and NMP but there was no individual identification and record made. I find Kate's clipping frustrating because it is unsourced (Pearson and Hackett would not have been privy to info about Isandhlwana burials) and quite late (August) in its reporting.
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PostSubject: Re: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey   Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey EmptySun Dec 18, 2022 5:51 pm

see this link Kyle you may find it interesting.
https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t12191-burial-of-the-dead-at-isandlwana#104638

It leads me to the following observations

The 7th of June burial party stated over 20 men of the NMP were nearly all identified. The above report seems to pin this down to a number, 23.
I find the term 'found surrounding that of the body of Lieutenat-Colonel Durnford' very vague.
It paints a picture of a tight clump of bodies all lying in a circle having died almost shoulder to shoulder with Durnford in the middle.
I think that circle of bodies is much more widespread than envisaged which would then tie in with the various reports of who was surrounding Durnford.
(though you could say that all the casualties were 'surrounding his body' if you make him a centre point on the battlefield)

The burial report (link above) states the NMP were found in a clump to the left of the road. To the right of the road was Durnford and then the clump of NC. The report states that the NC were 'close to' Durnford which is contrary to Granger's claim that the NC were all around him.
Read a certain way one could almost assume that Durnford was between the two clumps of resistance when he was cut down.
I am sure someone attached to the burial party would have had a pencil and paper and would have been writing down names of those identified in order to inform family members and loved ones. Such a list written by the scribe as the corpses were indentified would be invaluable as it would give us an idea as to who fell were.
Hopefully one day that list may appear.


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Kate
Yes, absolutely, to the left of the road.
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All the accounts place the NMP north of the track after the withdrawal from the donga to the stands in front of the camp.
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