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I came across a reference in the Parliamentary papers “Haine’s Royal Artillery , the following day (22nd May?) went to Fugitive’s Driftand buried all the artillerymen there.” The “following day being the reconnaissance to the Bashee Valley and the field of Isandlwana by Major General F Marshall.

Earliest reference I have seen to “Fugitives Drift” used by the military, suspect newspapers used it first.
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Tig
I think perhaps it might mean that they buried all the artillerymen that they found there, i.e. at FD. I know of one artillerymen buried there.
And yes, it is an early use of the term FD. Was it written with capital letters?
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Julian,

I was surprised. I know Smith was killed near there, he is the last casualty mentioned by Smith Dorien. I did not know of others, I am curently looking up who else may have been there.

It seems there were multiple Artlllery casualties.

Currently my thinking is that by that point only mounted men could have reached the Drift. That being so it makes sense that the artillerymen used the artillery horse spares or used whatever was in camp. I am thinking these were not the actual gunners. They presumably left when they saw the guns returning form the field.

The reference is in pp2367 Enc 4 No34 Chelmsford to War Office. It was by telegram spelt Fugitive's Drift.
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N/5 did have all its spare artillery horses in camp and those gunners that did manage to escape got away on those.
Of the actual men with the guns only Curling and Costellow escaped.
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Julian,

The burials took plce the day after the visit to the battlefield. I cannot see them loading decoposed corpses barely identifiable to bring them to the Drift to bury. They could not return to the battlefield to inter the bodies, it was a large force that covered the visit. The possibility that they did inter all together would infer crossing the river.

The ones that got to the river had horses and having got that far and knowing there were a plurality of dead at least gives some idea of casualty rate there. No survivor from memory speaks of artillerymen, e.g if two bodies 1:6, three 1:4, four 1:4. that does not include those drowned or killed crossing the river. I am assuming that the Natal riverbank dead would have already been interred. One cannot be sure of anything.

That said there may in the deepest records of the RA there may be a report by Haine's recording all this, or in Chelmsford's papers since this informaiton is not in Marshall's official report.

I have often thought that the accumulation of dead on the Fugitive's Trial may not represent a last stand, merely a good place for Zulus to wait in ambush, especially close to the streams leading down to the Manzimmyama Stream. Heresy I know but logical and a basic hunting tactic well known to the Zulu, the same may be true at the river.
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I think it is just meant that they buried those that they found there where they found them. It may just have been a handful.
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