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PostSubject: Isandhlwana NCO's   Isandhlwana NCO's EmptyThu Dec 01, 2011 2:52 pm

Hello

Who knows how many there were NCO's (lance corporal, corporal, lance sergeant, sergeant, staff sergeant ,ect...) of buglers and trumpeter at Isandhlwana in the:
- British mounted infantry
- Natal Mounted Police
- Natal Carbineers
- Newcastle Mounted Rifles
- Buffalo Border Guards
- Sikali's Horse, 3 Troops
- Horse Edentale
- Horse Hlubi
Their rank chevrons were the same as in the infantry and color identical?
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PostSubject: Re: Isandhlwana NCO's   Isandhlwana NCO's EmptyFri Dec 02, 2011 11:58 am

Hi Pascal

The Medal Rolls will give you the informatioin you need on the number of NCOs - there is (I believe) a copy available on a CD.

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PostSubject: Nco's for the colonial cavalry at issandlhwana   Isandhlwana NCO's EmptyFri Dec 02, 2011 2:24 pm


Hello

Thank you, but what is that thing there? And how to I access it?

It is vital for me to know the number of NCO grade by grade for these small units that I will go up to one to one with figures...

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PostSubject: Isandlwana NCO's    Isandhlwana NCO's EmptyFri Dec 02, 2011 9:14 pm

Hi Pascal.
I'm sorry to say but the information you want is impossible to find . All the Regimental records were destroyed at Isandlwana by
the battle and the Colonial forces didnt have very accurate records in any case . Your only chance is to get a copy of England's
Sons by Julian Whybra who is a member on the Forum. Here is a very good priced copy .


http://www.rrw.org.uk/shop/shop.php?action=list&author=Julian+Whybra

Hope this helps . This book is your best chance .
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PostSubject: Rank chevrons on the uniforms of the colonial cavalry.   Isandhlwana NCO's EmptySat Dec 03, 2011 7:22 am


Hi 90 th

Thank you for the info, I just ordered the book you gave me said ...

Now it should be before the paint on my figures if rank chevrons werworn on the right sleeve only or on Both sleeves and what color were they? white as in the Imperial infantry?

I now have more Natal Mounted Policemen and Natal Carabineers that there was a issandlwana and what is missing for the other littles units, will make in "gree stuff"

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PostSubject: Re: Isandhlwana NCO's   Isandhlwana NCO's EmptySat Dec 03, 2011 10:15 am

Hi Pascal

To get a copy of the Zuluy War medal roll (which will cover the whole war, and not just Isandlwana), I would refer you to:

1. Admin's post dated Sunday 28th March 2010 where he refers to the CD version - you might be lucky and get a copy via ebay or amazon.

or

2. Buy a hard copy: "The Zulu & Basuto Wars, including the complete medal roill 1877-8-9" by Roy Dutton (ISBN 0955655447) which retails for about £28

The medal rolls will not only tell you how many NCOs there were in each unit, they will also name them !

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PostSubject: Re: Isandhlwana NCO's   Isandhlwana NCO's EmptySat Dec 03, 2011 10:25 am

Hi Pascal

Chevrons - the wearing of these varied considerably in non-regular forces. The best advice I can give you is to look at photographs of the period. There are many books available, but initially I would suggest

Osprey Men At Arms Series No 388 "Zulu War: Volunteers, Irregulars & Auxiliaries"

Good luck

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PostSubject: colonial volunteers   Isandhlwana NCO's EmptySat Dec 03, 2011 1:53 pm


Thank you for all the help ... Bill
Next year on the forum, you will see the result in pictures of all my work ...

But one has to find a hard copy of: "The Zulu & Basuto Wars Including the complete medal roill 1877-8-9" by Roy Dutton (ISBN 0955655447) Which retails for about £ 28

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