Zulu: Lieutenant John Chard:What's our strength? Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead:Seven officers including surgeon, commissaries and so on; Adendorff now I suppose; wounded and sick 36, fit for duty 97 and about 40 native levies. Not much of an army for you
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Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:01 pm
......and there was me thinking that some of my topics came from somewhere out of left field.
Kable Guest
Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:26 pm
It was to do with a book called How Can Man Die Better where the author was very critical of Durnford but his loyalty to the 24th was absolute, never questioning anything they did at Isandlwana. Would he have been so hostile to Durnford if he had also been in the 24th considering this loyalty ?
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Drummer Boy 14
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Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:32 pm
He would have attacked lord Chelmsford
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tasker224
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Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:54 pm
[quote="Kable"]It was to do with a book called How Can Man Die Better where the author was very critical of Durnford but his loyalty to the 24th was absolute, never questioning anything they did at Isandlwana. Would he have been so hostile to Durnford if he had also been in the 24th considering this loyalty ?
I think you have answered you own Q Kable. No.
Kable Guest
Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:23 pm
Yes I think Lord Chelmsford would be his focus. I don't know how the author (Col. Snook) in that situation could then write the Blame Game as both of the commanding officers would then have been 24th but I read that the senior commanding officer is liable for any defeat. How would he be able to blame them if he never criticised the 24th ? If hostile towards Durnford as an R.E. officer in command at Isandlwana, how could he then give an opposite version ? Would he have wrote about Isandlwana without blaming anyone ?
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Drummer Boy 14
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Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:54 pm
He would have justifed Durnfords actions and ranted on about Chelsmford mistakes
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matthew83
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Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:53 pm
I wonder, did the bushmans pass affair also play it's part in the blame being laid at Durnford's door? It's easier to blame a man if his command abilities have already been questioned. Just a thought.
tasker224
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Subject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:56 pm
matthew83 wrote:
I wonder, did the bushmans pass affair also play it's part in the blame being laid at Durnford's door? It's easier to blame a man if his command abilities have already been questioned. Just a thought.
Good point, yes. And the fact that he was a memebr of the RE not an infantry regiment, and, he was dead so couldn't answer back. A very convenient scapegoat for Chelime to attempt to lay the blame on.
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