WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Film Quote Lieutenant Bromhead :If 1200 men couldn't hold a defensive position this morning, what chance have we with 100?
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Tthe mystery of JWJ Davies
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyYesterday at 10:17 pm by Tim Needham

» Bechuanaland police
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Jun 23, 2022 3:18 pm by ciroferrara

» 17th Lancers
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Jun 23, 2022 3:07 pm by gardner1879

» Commissary E. W. H. Webb, C.B.
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyWed Jun 22, 2022 4:02 pm by Julian Whybra

» Captain Robert Francis Vetch
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyWed Jun 22, 2022 1:03 pm by Frank Allewell

» The difference between a Drummer and a Boy in the Band.
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyTue Jun 21, 2022 4:07 am by magolding

» Zulu Boys Recollection of the Zulu War
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyTue Jun 21, 2022 3:40 am by magolding

» Remembering the Rebellion - The Zulu Uprising of 1906 Jeff Guy
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyMon Jun 20, 2022 10:09 pm by Ian Chard

» Sergeant Arthur Horatio Still, 12th Lancers
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 7:29 pm by Julian Whybra

» Corporal James Lawler 1/24th
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 12:42 pm by gardner1879

» Quartermaster Michael James Kenny Connaught Rangers
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 12:39 pm by gardner1879

» Captain Ulick De Burgh
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 8:55 am by gardner1879

» I am a happy boy!
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 5:17 am by nitro450

» Patrick Murray, 313, 88th of Foot
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyFri Jun 17, 2022 5:22 pm by gardner1879

» Zulu Dawn on DVD - better than Blu-Ray?
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyFri Jun 17, 2022 3:29 pm by TimmyH

» Lieutenant Richard Hawes MacCarthy, 2nd/4th Regiment
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyFri Jun 17, 2022 2:59 pm by Julian Whybra

» Howard Molyneux Edward Brunker
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Jun 16, 2022 11:05 am by gardner1879

» Location of Special Service Officers 1878/9
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyWed Jun 15, 2022 12:34 pm by gardner1879

» Cdvs and cabinet card photos wanted
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyTue Jun 14, 2022 2:19 pm by ciroferrara

» Other ranks patrol jacket
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyMon Jun 13, 2022 12:23 pm by John Young

» A Staffordshire Regiment in the Zulu and Zekukuni Campaigns
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySun Jun 12, 2022 5:12 pm by gardner1879

» Good website or seller for zulu war era Carte De Visites
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySat Jun 11, 2022 2:27 pm by ciroferrara

» In search of more service papers
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyFri Jun 10, 2022 11:10 pm by charltontom7@gmail.com

» Isandlwana solving the enigma
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyFri Jun 10, 2022 1:41 pm by Julian Whybra

» Brave mens blood. Frontier Light Horse picture
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Jun 09, 2022 8:54 pm by ciroferrara

» Picture Quiz
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySat Jun 04, 2022 2:56 pm by Julian Whybra

» Platinum Jubilee
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyFri Jun 03, 2022 10:25 pm by Julian Whybra

» Trooper G Hennessey (301) Frontier Light Horse
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Jun 02, 2022 2:43 pm by 90th

» Captain Robert Julian Orde Jocelyn 8th Reg
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyMon May 30, 2022 6:48 am by gardner1879

» Best book on colonial soldiers during zulu war
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptySun May 29, 2022 12:14 am by ciroferrara

» Sergeant E Wilson
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyWed May 25, 2022 9:30 am by gardner1879

» 1940 Review of 'Lord Chelmsford and the Zulu War'
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyTue May 24, 2022 12:53 pm by gardner1879

» H.M.S. Forester
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyTue May 24, 2022 2:55 am by 90th

» Royal Small Arms Repair Factory - Pimlico / Mill Bank , London
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyWed May 18, 2022 2:04 pm by MPS1

» Deafness linked to the effects of battle
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyMon May 16, 2022 1:56 pm by Younghusband

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
The Death of the Prince Imperial Zulu War 1879
Top posters
90th
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
littlehand
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
ADMIN
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
1879graves
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
rusteze
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
John
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
Julian Whybra
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
gardner1879
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
John Young
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
ciroferrara
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Vaughan
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Ian Chard
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
90th
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Bill8183
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Tim Needham
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_leftIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? BarIf Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Bar_right 
Most active topics
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
Woolfryes Natal carbineers taylor john spalding harford james Durnford brown Isandlwana Prince william smith Russell Franklin zulu George Police Mounted drift 24th henry payne martini horse
 

 If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?

Go down 
3 posters
AuthorMessage
tasker224

tasker224


Posts : 2101
Join date : 2010-07-30
Age : 55
Location : North London

If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 1:01 pm

scratch

......and there was me thinking that some of my topics came from somewhere out of left field.
Back to top Go down
Kable
Guest




If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 1:26 pm

It was to do with a book called How Can Man Die Better where the author was very critical of Durnford but his loyalty to the 24th was absolute, never questioning anything they did at Isandlwana. Would he have been so hostile to Durnford if he had also been in the 24th considering this loyalty ?


"You want to win ? Turn me loose !" - Gamer
Back to top Go down
Drummer Boy 14

Drummer Boy 14


Posts : 2008
Join date : 2011-08-01
Age : 25

If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 1:32 pm

He would have attacked lord Chelmsford Idea


Cheers
DB14
Back to top Go down
tasker224

tasker224


Posts : 2101
Join date : 2010-07-30
Age : 55
Location : North London

If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 1:54 pm

[quote="Kable"]It was to do with a book called How Can Man Die Better where the author was very critical of Durnford but his loyalty to the 24th was absolute, never questioning anything they did at Isandlwana. Would he have been so hostile to Durnford if he had also been in the 24th considering this loyalty ?

I think you have answered you own Q Kable. No.
Back to top Go down
Kable
Guest




If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 3:23 pm

Yes I think Lord Chelmsford would be his focus. I don't know how the author (Col. Snook) in that situation could then write the Blame Game as both of the commanding officers would then have been 24th but I read that the senior commanding officer is liable for any defeat. How would he be able to blame them if he never criticised the 24th ? If hostile towards Durnford as an R.E. officer in command at Isandlwana, how could he then give an opposite version ? Would he have wrote about Isandlwana without blaming anyone ?


"You want to win ? Turn me loose !" - Gamer
Back to top Go down
Drummer Boy 14

Drummer Boy 14


Posts : 2008
Join date : 2011-08-01
Age : 25

If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 3:54 pm

He would have justifed Durnfords actions and ranted on about Chelsmford mistakes Idea



Cheers
DB14
Back to top Go down
matthew83

matthew83


Posts : 65
Join date : 2011-12-15

If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 7:53 pm

I wonder, did the bushmans pass affair also play it's part in the blame being laid at Durnford's door?
It's easier to blame a man if his command abilities have already been questioned.
Just a thought.
Back to top Go down
tasker224

tasker224


Posts : 2101
Join date : 2010-07-30
Age : 55
Location : North London

If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? Empty
PostSubject: Re: If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?   If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ? EmptyThu Dec 22, 2011 7:56 pm

matthew83 wrote:
I wonder, did the bushmans pass affair also play it's part in the blame being laid at Durnford's door?
It's easier to blame a man if his command abilities have already been questioned.
Just a thought.

Good point, yes.
And the fact that he was a memebr of the RE not an infantry regiment, and, he was dead so couldn't answer back. A very convenient scapegoat for Chelime to attempt to lay the blame on.
Back to top Go down
 
If Durnford Had Been A 24th Officer ?
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Unidentified 24th Officer
» Help Required to identify 24th Soldier
» Durnford's medical officer
» Col. R. Glyn Commanding Officer 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment
» Lt.Col. H. Degacher Commanding Officer 2nd Btn 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment.

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: