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PostSubject: The horse's   The horse's EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 10:47 pm

Looking for names of the horses that carried some of the well known personatities through the Zulu War. Any help appreciated. If possible what happened to them.
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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 10:52 pm

Hi 😕

Col. Durnfords horse was called Chieftain.

After Durnford decided to stay the horse was probebly killed or taken by a Fugitive.




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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 11:06 pm

I believe Prince Napolians horse which he was riding at the time of his death was
"Percy"
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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 11:28 pm

Just ashame the horse's wasnt preserved like Napoleon's was.

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyMon Dec 26, 2011 1:29 am

Dave is correct on the Prince Imperial’s horse being named “Percy”. It is one of two horses he purchased to replace the ones he brought from England, both of which died at Durban. The second horse was named “Fate.” (Source: Military History Journal, Vol. 3, No. 2 – December, 1974 “The Prince” by Alf Wade)

Captain William C. F. Molyneux, A.D.C. to Lord Chelmsford at Gingindlovu , had one horse named “Lampas” mortally wounded. He them removed the saddle and put it on his second horse “Poll Evil”. According to Captain Molyneux, he had to purchase two new horses since “Poll Evil had gone the way of poor Lampas.” (Source: “Campaigning in South Africa and Egypt,” by William Charles Francis Molyneux)


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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyMon Dec 26, 2011 6:12 am

Many years ago I was a visitor to the Durban Club, which was housed in a grand building on Durban's Esplanade. Amongst the memorabilia on display was one of Percy's hooves. If I remember correctly, it had been converted into an inkwell and was adorned with a silver plaque with an inscription describing its origins.

The Durban Club was later confined to a small part of the building and by now may even be defunct. The memorabilia, including Percy's hoof, may be scattered or may even be no more, given the price of silver and the local indifference to Colonial history.

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PostSubject: Names of horses   The horse's EmptyMon Dec 26, 2011 6:53 am


Tpr Clarke's horse was an English charger and was called 'Warrior".
He bought it for 20 pounds from another English Officer who found the horse totally unmanageable. He had a "propensity" for bucking and kicking. No one dared walk around the back of the animal because of this. Thus, to groom, the horse had to be thrown.
This horse was also used to train and punish police recruits who did not do well at riding school and was referred to as 'the beast" or "monster", by those having to take their punishment on it.
Tpr Clarke had no problem with Warrior at all and the horse served him well.

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PostSubject: The horse's   The horse's EmptyMon Dec 26, 2011 7:10 am


Hi

These stories of horses am interested if anyone know their real color, it will allow me to paint them properly because I have figures of historical figures on horseback ...

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PostSubject: The Horse's Names    The horse's EmptyMon Dec 26, 2011 9:10 pm

Hi All.
If I remember correctly Trpr Mosop's horse was also called ' Warrior '
happy to be corrected .
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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyMon Dec 26, 2011 10:57 pm

Wasn't Lonsdale horse called Dotty.
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PostSubject: :: The horse's   The horse's EmptyTue Dec 27, 2011 6:37 am

Hi

And what was the color of Chieftain ?. And of the others horses...?

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyWed Dec 28, 2011 9:32 pm

mossops horse was white


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Thank you and the horse Durnford?





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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySat Jan 07, 2012 12:03 am

Captain Hart, 2nd Regiment, NNC bought his horse, "Paddy Wack," from Major Graves. (Source: “Letters of Major-General Fitzroy Hart-Synnot”)


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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySat Jan 07, 2012 7:24 am

Hi

And what was the color of Chieftain ?.

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySat Jan 07, 2012 1:26 pm

I believe he was a dapple colour. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySat Jan 07, 2012 7:32 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptySun Jan 08, 2012 6:29 pm

Thanks Pascal.
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Yes you too ...
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PostSubject: General Sir Richard Harrison R.E.   The horse's EmptyTue Jan 10, 2012 3:02 am

Hi all .
In his recollections of his time in Sth Africa during the zulu war , Harrison mentions his horse's names , his first charger was named
' Rocket ' while his second was named ' Durban ' . Sorry Pascal , no colour is given to either horse .
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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyTue Jan 10, 2012 7:04 am

Hi all

Well for the horse of Durnford and other celebritees of Isandhlwana, I'll watch "Zulu Dawn" again and view on google how other people have painted their faces of these characters...

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyThu Jan 26, 2012 11:17 pm

Did Durnford have two horses named "'Chieftain" because his horse at Bushmans Pass was named "Chieftain" and that was in 1873 Six year prior to the Zulu War. I don't know what the life expectancy was for horses considering the various diseases that effected them. Was the horse not injured in the fall at Bushmans pass.

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyFri Jan 27, 2012 7:38 am

24th wrote:
Was the horse not injured in the fall at Bushmans pass.

His horse threw Him and broke 2 of his ribs and dislocated his shoulder, i think the horse was fine


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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyFri Jan 27, 2012 7:45 am

Hi all

The "horse" of Durnford at Isandhlwana was a White Basotho pony Wink

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyFri Jan 27, 2012 8:17 am

Thanks, but I was trying to find out if he had two horses during his time in africa giving the same name to both of them.
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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyFri Jan 27, 2012 8:40 am

Dear sir

Yes I know but it's good to know that one of these two horses was a pony, which is different from a horse, can people know that what appears to ...

Oh, I thank them enough Springbok 9 for this information ...

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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyThu Apr 26, 2012 12:33 pm

90th wrote:
Hi All.
If I remember correctly Trpr Mosop's horse was also called ' Warrior '
happy to be corrected .
Cheers 90th.

Hi All,
Sorry for chipping in late, whilst reading I came across these, if I find anymore I will post them later.

As 90th stated Mossop's horse was a basuto pony called "Warrior", the day after he carried Mossop to the safety of Kambula the horse succumed to it's wounds. Trp. Mossop was then issued with another called "Old Bones".

Buller had a horse called "Punch" which was a brindle colour.

Larsen's horse by the drawing had a white horse - sorry no name.

In a photograph an unnamed Officer/N.C.O. of the Frontier Light Horse he had a horse called "Lady" and looked to be bay/brindle in colour.

Heinrich an interpreter of the 4th Kings Own had a horse called "Garibaldi"
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PostSubject: Re: The horse's   The horse's EmptyThu Apr 26, 2012 12:42 pm

Horse or pony that is the question ...for any men in the zulu war...

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