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horsefixer
Posts : 37 Join date : 2010-07-25
 | Subject: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:44 pm | |
| Can anyone (Neill, I guess!!) tell me whether there was a pistol or revolver which used the same ammunition as the MH? |
|  | | ciscokid
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-02-04
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:52 pm | |
| - horsefixer wrote:
- Can anyone (Neill, I guess!!) tell me whether there was a pistol or revolver which used the same ammunition as the MH?
Have you seen the size of the bullets? |
|  | | John

Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 61 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:59 pm | |
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|  | | 1879graves

Posts : 3349 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:03 pm | |
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|  | | John

Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 61 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:07 pm | |
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|  | | 1879graves

Posts : 3349 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:10 pm | |
| Hi John  I would not like to be the one pulling the trigger of that pistol |
|  | | John

Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 61 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:20 pm | |
| It would certainly break you wrist. |
|  | | Neil Aspinshaw

Posts : 553 Join date : 2009-10-14 Location : Loughborough
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:52 am | |
| .450 was standard calibre for the British Military, however calibre is only the bullets diameter not size, as this is referred to in grains of lead.
There was five standard sizes cartridges by 1879/1880
.577/.450 Mk3 Rifle round 480 grain bullet .577/.450 Mk3 Carbine round 420 grain bullet .450 Mk1 Adam Revolver round 225 grains .450 Mk2 Cartridge SA Pistol 225 Grains .502/.450 Gardner Gatling 480 grain
Not forgetting the Westley Richards .450 Pattern 2 480 grians and the .577 Snider. |
|  | | barry

Posts : 947 Join date : 2011-10-21 Location : Algoa Bay
 | Subject: MH velocity/kKnockdown capabilty Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:46 pm | |
| Hi Neil ,
Thanks for cartridge date on MH and other weapons. Would you perhaps know the FPS of the MH 480grn bullet say at 150m. It' sfall, or trajectory path at that range would also give some idea of its shooting ability. I suppose firing a MH singlehandely ( a la pistol mode) would be much like firing, pistol mode, a cut down 12gg shotgun, with a 450 grn slug in front of a magnum loading.
barry
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|  | | Neil Aspinshaw

Posts : 553 Join date : 2009-10-14 Location : Loughborough
 | Subject: Re: handgun using same ammo as MH rifle Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:24 am | |
| Barry initial Muzzle velocity is approx 1320 feet per second (about 400m) with de -acceleration beginning almost immediately, in foot / pounds energy this equates to approx 1920lbs
In other words the poundage on yer shoulder (recoil energy) is roughly calculated at 38lbs (rifle) and 40 lbs (Carbine), firing the rifle single handed would mean the chances of hitting anything remote, and the whole thing would be like a bucking bronco, its not something I have tried!.
To illustrate the de-acceleratiom, at a target on the ground at 500 yards, fired from prone, the bullets trajectory would reach an apogee of 8ft (2.4m) before decending. |
|  | | barry

Posts : 947 Join date : 2011-10-21 Location : Algoa Bay
 | Subject: MH ballistics Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:02 pm | |
| Hi Neil,
Thanks for that.
barry
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