handgun using same ammo as MH rifle

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Can anyone (Neill, I guess!!) tell me whether there was a pistol or revolver which used the same ammunition as the MH?

Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-02-04

horsefixer wrote:: Can anyone (Neill, I guess!!) tell me whether there was a pistol or revolver which used the same ammunition as the MH?

Have you seen the size of the bullets? Shocked

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Same caliber

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Martini-Henry cartridge and a .22 LR cartridge for comparison.

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Martini-Henry pistol.

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Hi John

I would not like to be the one pulling the trigger of that pistol Suspect

Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 60 Location : UK

It would certainly break you wrist.

Posts : 553 Join date : 2009-10-14 Location : Loughborough

.450 was standard calibre for the British Military, however calibre is only the bullets diameter not size, as this is referred to in grains of lead.

There was five standard sizes cartridges by 1879/1880

.577/.450 Mk3 Rifle round 480 grain bullet
.577/.450 Mk3 Carbine round 420 grain bullet
.450 Mk1 Adam Revolver round 225 grains
.450 Mk2 Cartridge SA Pistol 225 Grains
.502/.450 Gardner Gatling 480 grain

Not forgetting the Westley Richards .450 Pattern 2 480 grians and the .577 Snider.

Posts : 947 Join date : 2011-10-21 Location : Algoa Bay

Hi Neil ,

Thanks for cartridge date on MH and other weapons.
Would you perhaps know the FPS of the MH 480grn bullet say at 150m. It' sfall, or trajectory path at that range would also give some idea of its shooting ability. I suppose firing a MH singlehandely ( a la pistol mode) would be much like firing, pistol mode, a cut down 12gg shotgun, with a 450 grn slug in front of a magnum loading.

barry

Posts : 553 Join date : 2009-10-14 Location : Loughborough

Barry
initial Muzzle velocity is approx 1320 feet per second (about 400m) with de -acceleration beginning almost immediately, in foot / pounds energy this equates to approx 1920lbs

In other words the poundage on yer shoulder (recoil energy) is roughly calculated at 38lbs (rifle) and 40 lbs (Carbine), firing the rifle single handed would mean the chances of hitting anything remote, and the whole thing would be like a bucking bronco, its not something I have tried!.

To illustrate the de-acceleratiom, at a target on the ground at 500 yards, fired from prone, the bullets trajectory would reach an apogee of 8ft (2.4m) before decending.

Posts : 947 Join date : 2011-10-21 Location : Algoa Bay

Hi Neil,

Thanks for that.

barry

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