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"Name of Ancestor: George Scainker Paul

Ancestor's date of birth: 1848

Ancestor's date of death: 25/08/1937

Cause of Death: Old Age, Senility

Service Number: 1123 and 23

Colony or State of enlistment: NSW Place of Enlistment: Muswellbrook

Unit: NSW Imperial Bushmen and 1 bn Australian Commonwealth Horse

Rank attained in Boer War: CPL, Date Effective: not known

Highest Rank attained (if served after war): CPL

Murray Page: 104 and 169

Contingent: Fourth New South Wales and First Australian

Ship: Armenian, Date of Sailing: 23/04/1900

Ship: Custodian, Date of Sailing: 18/02/1902

Memorial details: Buried at Wallabdah NSW - no headstone

Decorations: Queen and King's South Africa medals with clasps. British War Medal, Victory Medal.

Personal Characteristics: A soldier.

Reasons to go and fight: Had served in the Ashanti War, 1873-4; Zulu War, 1874; Tel el Kebir, 1882.

Details of service in war: 1900 - May 1901 with the NSW Imperial Bushmen in Rhodesia and west Transvaal including capture of de la Rey’s convoy and guns at Wildfontein (24 March 1901). March - May 1902 with the Australian Commonwealth Horse on Natal border and west Transvaal"

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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptySun Jan 08, 2012 9:37 pm

Hi Littlehand

Somethings do not add up here Suspect
I think George Paul has been not quite truthfull here. Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptySun Jan 08, 2012 9:40 pm

I knew it!!!!! Perhaps we should put this into the "DID THEY OR DIDN'T THEY TAKE PART IN THE ZULU WAR"

Post your concerns "Graves" Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptySun Jan 08, 2012 9:50 pm

Hi Littlehand

Quote :
Perhaps we should put this into the "DID THEY OR DIDN'T THEY TAKE PART IN THE ZULU WAR"

I think you are correct there mate Idea

Getting late tonight and wife wants the computer, I will post my concerns tomorrow Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptySun Jan 08, 2012 10:01 pm

See you then. Admin if you could do the honours and move this topic. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptySun Jan 08, 2012 10:27 pm

Done Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptyMon Jan 09, 2012 8:21 pm

Hi Littlehand

The question is did he take part in the Zulu War of 1879?

I would say no, lets look at the evidence.

In the first article it states Zulu War 1870 (could be a mis-print) Suspect
I have also read in other Australian papers and they have reported Zulu War 1874 & 1879.
The following is from Australian War Memorial records: Oldest member of the 1st AIF: 3664 Cpl George Paul, age 69. 4th Tunnelling Company, enlisted 18/10/1915, returned to Australia 17/3/17. Believed to have also served in the Ashanti War 1873-74, Zulu War 1879, Tel-el-Kebir 1882 and Boer War.
Not alot of evidence there.

We now need to look at his name "George Paul"
Is there a G.Paul listed on the Medal Roll?
Yes there is only one - 1155 Troop Sergeant Major G.Paul, 17th Lancers. Could this be our man?
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Now we see the name of George William Paul.
Littlehand post George Scainker Paul - So not the same name.

I also have the following reference for George Scainker Paul :-
George Paul had his baptism registered on 15 February 1848 at the parish of Dornoch, Sutherland so we can assume he was born somewhere around that time. His father was James Paul [b. 1832] and mother known as Kate.
From George William Paul's service record we can see that his fathers name was George and his mother was named Mary.
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So George Scainker Paul and George William Paul could not be the same person.

So far, I would say that he did not take part in the Zulu War of 1879, It is possible that he did take part in another South African action during the 1870's, but I do not know. I do not have copies of Ashanti War 1873-74 medal roll or the medal roll for the Egyptian campaigns, so I am unable to verify if he was entitled to them. As for the 2nd Boer War, I am in the process of checking. Once he commences service in Australia, then he is picked up by the official records in Australia.

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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptyMon Jan 09, 2012 9:37 pm

1879Graves. You would make a good policeman. Excellent breakdown of information. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Corporal George Paul Of Wallabadah   Corporal George Paul  Of Wallabadah EmptyMon Jan 09, 2012 10:11 pm

Great work. Guess we will leave him in this section of the forum. If you find anything else on this chap. Let me. Idea Thanks Graves...
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