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PostSubject: Paper cartridges....   Paper cartridges.... EmptyFri Feb 03, 2012 8:06 am

Hi all

Can we put paper cartridges in a bandollier ? scratch

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I think the only answer to that would be ...possibly... but not with any success. Could be wrong but I think after a while of movement it would be like putting a packet of cigarettes in the spin dryer. Hmmmm no dont think it would work.
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PostSubject: Re: Paper cartridges....   Paper cartridges.... EmptyFri Feb 03, 2012 8:59 am

I know that Westley-Richards rifles had paper cartridges and that NNH had bandolliers for ammunition for their carbines Westley-Richards, but Richard Scolins drawing to the Zulu warriors of the Nokhenke regiment armed with muskets or muzzle loading rifles bearing their cartridges in bandolliers ... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Paper cartridges....   Paper cartridges.... EmptyFri Feb 03, 2012 9:10 am

I dont understand why you felt the need to ask the question if you had the answer?
Sounds like my wife.......she who knows all.
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PostSubject: Re: Paper cartridges....   Paper cartridges.... EmptyFri Feb 03, 2012 10:15 am

Look at a photograph of any Boer C1880, especially Jubert and his Majuba men, they all wear bandoliers of paper cartridges for their Westley Richards.

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PostSubject: Re: Paper cartridges....   Paper cartridges.... EmptyFri Feb 03, 2012 11:45 am

Hello Neil and Springbok

Yes I know it was done for the paper cartridges of Westley Richards...With the NNH...

But for firearms of a more ancient model,like the old muskets or muzzle loading rifles of the Zulus?

If the cartridges were of a most ancient manufacturing model, maybe it was not ...?

Springbok Well, I was asking for muzzle loading muskets and rifles ...

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PostSubject: Re: Paper cartridges....   Paper cartridges.... EmptyFri Feb 03, 2012 11:51 am

Pascal
As paper was not a commodiity commonplace in Zulu society, bullet or ball would be kept in shoulder bag, powder in horn.

NNH would have ordnance ready made uniform ammunition, issued from stores.
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PostSubject: Re: Paper cartridges....   Paper cartridges.... EmptyFri Feb 03, 2012 12:50 pm

A thousand times thank you Neil

You see I had my doubts, my intuition is always good, but I wanted the opinion of a specialist ...

Again, I say do not trust illustrators, even when there are very good ...

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