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PostSubject: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 9:09 pm

Hi - anyone have any information or comments on this newspaper article that appeared in Newcastle's Evening Chronicle (UK) a few weeks back.
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 9:23 pm

I reckon, it's another one of those soldiers stories. He's not the first and won't be the last. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 10:05 pm

1879-2009

There is a J. Trotter on the Medal Roll.

1356 Private J. Trotter, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot 2nd Battalion
South Africa Medal with Clasp 1877-8-9. His regimental service number was 1356.

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PostSubject: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 10:31 pm

Thanks 1879graves.

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PostSubject: John Trotter , R.D. Defender    John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 11:40 pm

Hi all .
If anyone here knows it will be Julian , or if Kris Wheatley happens to visit this site she will also know .
cheers 90th. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 7:43 pm

Not surprising that a journalist would make the quantum leap assumption of:

24th foot ---> Rorke's Drift.
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 9:14 pm

Would he have not received the RD bible.
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 9:16 pm

I can't find him in Englands Son's.
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 9:31 pm

Type in " John Trotter" the amount of of references you get mostly lead back to this site. Just goes to show we can resurrect the dead.
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PostSubject: John Trotter , R.D. Defender    John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 12:27 am

Hi All .
Kris Wheatley has kindly sent me an email and she states ; '' I have no knowledge of any J. Trotter and his name doesn't appear in ANY of the Roll's of the defenders , It is equally possible that the man was ' elsewhere ' at the time of Isandlwana & Rorke's Drift . Was he for instance with Chelmesford , many soldiers who were not present either deliberately gave their family the impression that they were there at the time , whilst others wrote home ( Especially those passing through R.D for a few days later ) who's families mistakingly thought they had been there at the time of the battle . Some will inevitably always remain a mystery , others will and have been solved '' .
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 9:08 pm

Hi - Thanks to all for opinions and info. Thanks to 90th and Kris Wheatley.

However, the slight twist with this one is the Rorke's Drift re-enactment at the Northern Command Tattoo, at Ravensworth Castle in Gateshead. Presuming that John Trotter did attend this, could he have stood along side the other 5 Rorke's Drift veterans, with an exaggerated account of his involvement in the battle??

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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 10:47 pm

He was probably with the 2nd invasion. Salute
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PostSubject: John Trotter , R.D. Defender    John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyThu Mar 08, 2012 5:18 am

Hi CTSG.
He was certainly in Sth Africa for a while as he was awarded the medal with the clasp 77-78-79 !. So that rules out the second invasion . Salute
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PostSubject: Re: John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender   John Trotter, Rorke's Drift Defender EmptyThu Mar 08, 2012 7:19 pm

John Trotter is on none of the RD rolls, so as things stand, he was not there. End of.
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